16-07-2024, 02:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 16-07-2024, 03:02 PM by Ahmet Ardıç.)
Dear researchers,
Regarding the first word on page VM 33v, I wrote in my article that this word exists in Turkish with different semantic contents without disturbing the sentence structure, and I also mentioned the bibliographies. Below, I have shown a more detailed explanation and evidence (again) of the existence of the written forms of the word in Turkish, including historical dictionary pages.
In this 33v related article, (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) the word YARARSAM / YARARSAĞN indicated is written in the first sentence at the beginning of page 16 in this meaning as YARARSAM:
"If the first word of the first line (of page 33v) can read as YARARSAM based on the ATA transcription table, a reading person doing the translation should consider the 'first person singular verb form' of the verb YARMAK." In addition, the first paragraph of page 17 also indicates that the word in the same meaning as your pointing. Because here the -SAM suffix of the word "yarar-SAM" has taken the form of a first-person singular expression with connecting this root YAR-AR-.
The sentence can be read as “Yararsam kopan/dağılan çiyiti yassı oval uzunca, ekini çok-uçlu, tarımı yapılabilir gün/çiçek” too. The 1/1 translation of this sentence into English could be roughly as follows: "If I break it open, its flat, oval, longish seed disperses, multi-tips, cultivable day (sun)/flower."
The root of the word is YAR-/YARI- and the verb form of the word is YARMAK, which can be seen in today's words. Due to the way the author writes this word, all variants of the word that can be read differently have an equivalent in Turkish. No matter how you take the meaning of this word, the result is a sentence that does not disrupt the integrity of the Turkish sentence structure and describes the information specific to the plant described. Therefore, the author is a very clever person and he left an entertaining and versatile text to his special reader by making word games using the advantages of this alphabet. Moreover, we detected the same situation in some other pages and sentences.
The word is mentioned in the same meaning (to split, to split something by cutting, to tear it apart) in the "Divanü Lügati't-Türk" manuscript, which was started to be written by Kaşkarlı Mahmut in 1072 and was completed in 1074. It is also known that this word appears with the same meaning in the manuscript called "Irk Bitig" written in the Old Turkish period (before 900).
Check the below links to see this word in the dictionary pages:
YARMAK > You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
YARAR > You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
YARARSAM > You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
YAR / YAR-mak > You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
The word GÜN/KÜN/*ÇN/*ÇüN, which is the last word in line 33v, was also used in the meaning of Sun in the Old Turkish Period. See:
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The machine detected two different meanings of the word YARARSAM below. However, if the place of the predicate and subject changes in the sentence, the meaning will not change. In fact, the Google Translate program sometimes shows some semantic content depending on the text format. However, we have proven that these meanings are already in the root meaning pool of this word by making references to historical dictionaries and manuscripts. For this reason, we mainly reference not only machines but to familiar real-dictionary pages. However, you can see that machines also perceive the same semantic content.
See:
Regarding the first word on page VM 33v, I wrote in my article that this word exists in Turkish with different semantic contents without disturbing the sentence structure, and I also mentioned the bibliographies. Below, I have shown a more detailed explanation and evidence (again) of the existence of the written forms of the word in Turkish, including historical dictionary pages.
In this 33v related article, (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) the word YARARSAM / YARARSAĞN indicated is written in the first sentence at the beginning of page 16 in this meaning as YARARSAM:
"If the first word of the first line (of page 33v) can read as YARARSAM based on the ATA transcription table, a reading person doing the translation should consider the 'first person singular verb form' of the verb YARMAK." In addition, the first paragraph of page 17 also indicates that the word in the same meaning as your pointing. Because here the -SAM suffix of the word "yarar-SAM" has taken the form of a first-person singular expression with connecting this root YAR-AR-.
The sentence can be read as “Yararsam kopan/dağılan çiyiti yassı oval uzunca, ekini çok-uçlu, tarımı yapılabilir gün/çiçek” too. The 1/1 translation of this sentence into English could be roughly as follows: "If I break it open, its flat, oval, longish seed disperses, multi-tips, cultivable day (sun)/flower."
The root of the word is YAR-/YARI- and the verb form of the word is YARMAK, which can be seen in today's words. Due to the way the author writes this word, all variants of the word that can be read differently have an equivalent in Turkish. No matter how you take the meaning of this word, the result is a sentence that does not disrupt the integrity of the Turkish sentence structure and describes the information specific to the plant described. Therefore, the author is a very clever person and he left an entertaining and versatile text to his special reader by making word games using the advantages of this alphabet. Moreover, we detected the same situation in some other pages and sentences.
The word is mentioned in the same meaning (to split, to split something by cutting, to tear it apart) in the "Divanü Lügati't-Türk" manuscript, which was started to be written by Kaşkarlı Mahmut in 1072 and was completed in 1074. It is also known that this word appears with the same meaning in the manuscript called "Irk Bitig" written in the Old Turkish period (before 900).
Check the below links to see this word in the dictionary pages:
YARMAK > You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
YARAR > You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
YARARSAM > You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
YAR / YAR-mak > You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
The word GÜN/KÜN/*ÇN/*ÇüN, which is the last word in line 33v, was also used in the meaning of Sun in the Old Turkish Period. See:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
The machine detected two different meanings of the word YARARSAM below. However, if the place of the predicate and subject changes in the sentence, the meaning will not change. In fact, the Google Translate program sometimes shows some semantic content depending on the text format. However, we have proven that these meanings are already in the root meaning pool of this word by making references to historical dictionaries and manuscripts. For this reason, we mainly reference not only machines but to familiar real-dictionary pages. However, you can see that machines also perceive the same semantic content.
See: