29-05-2022, 12:31 AM
(This post was last modified: 29-05-2022, 12:47 AM by Ahmet Ardıç.)
From the folio 78v:
XÇCSU OF (kıçcığını ov)
or
XÇC SU OF (Kıçcığı suyla ov / kıçı su ov)
may translate in English:
1> Rub your little/young ass (poop/butt)
2> Rub your/their-own small ass with water
We have said before that the author deliberately wrote some words separately, but they should not be written separately in Turkish. Moreover, we have shown examples of this. Likewise, the author sometimes combines separate words. Nor are they expected to be normally joined together. However, we think that the author deliberately did this job of splitting or concatenating words. We can probably say that the author himself wanted the texts he wrote to be as difficult to read as possible.
For this reason, two or three words written by the author can be mentioned here. In the author's spelling: "XÇCSU OF" or "XÇC SU OF" is written. Here, in the first variant (XÇCSU OF), it can be evaluated as the -SU word-affix at the end of the first word. In the second variant, we can treat SU as a word. So, if "SU" is a word, it means "water" and "aqua".
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In writing "XÇCSU OF", the root of the word is written in the form "XÇ-". This is an abbreviated spelling. The first sound, "X", has turned into "H" and "K" sounds today in Anatolian-Turkish. Here, we write the word "XÇ-" by the author today as "KIÇ" (ass & poop & butt). A very small sound change can be counted in the 600 years that have passed since then. It is known that today, in dialects of the Turkish language, X > H > K sounds are constantly transforming into each other.
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Here, the first word-suffix adjoining this root word is -C-. This suffix is also a diminutive and polite preposition written in abbreviated form.
The author used to write kıçcı (XÇC-) > kıçcık/kıçcığı" (small-ass/young-ass) instead of "kıç" (XÇ- > ass). I don't know the exact meaning of this in English, but I can say that it means "little/younger ass" in a sense. Here, this word suffix adds the meanings of "small, little, minor, young, younger, petty" to the root word. So it is possible to translate it (XÇC-) as "small ass", "young ass" or "petty ass" in English.
See this -C- (cıı/cığı/cık/... etc) > source about this suffixe: Miandoab, N. Z. "The concept of reduction in Turkish language and reduction suffixes: (a comparative study with modern Oghuz dialects)". Journal of Turkology 22 (2018): 213-237 / Mıandoab, N. Z. "Türk dilinde küçültme kavramı ve küçültme ekleri (modern Oğuz lehçeleri ile karşılaştırmalı bir inceleme)". Türkoloji Dergisi 22 (2018 ) : 213-237
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In this case, the "-SU" suffixe at the and as (XÇC-SU) is English equivalent of "the, that, their, his/her". Also, this suffix "-si/-su/-si-/-su" can sometimes indicate a reinforcement function in the language and sometimes a relation of belonging too.
In this case the word XÇCSU means "your/their young ass" & "your/their-own ass" in English.
But if "-SU" at this end is evaluated as not suffix, but as a word, it means "water". See: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
The word "OF" at the end is now written as "OV".
F > V sound transformation is a situation that is frequently seen both in Old Turkish period and today between different dialects. Also, this sound conversion is often recorded in VM-texts too in same way. (So this is not the only example, we have seen the same sound change while reading other words.)
You can see the semantic content of the word OV in dictionaries in the form of "OV-MAK" with the word-suffix "-mak". (I have explained why this is so and the function of the -mak suffix earlier in these pages.)
Meaning of the word OV / OV-mak are:
1) rub
2) scrub
3) scour
4) rub down
5) massage
6) knead
7) scour away
8) scour off
9) to stroke (okşamak)
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In this case, the translation difference between the author's writing of XÇCSU OF (kıçcığını ov) or XÇC SU OF (Kıçcığı suyla ov / kıçı su ov) may translate in English as:
1> Rub your little/young ass
2> Rub your/their-own ass with water
In both cases we see a clear match between the drawing and these words. Because the author has drawn female figures bathing on page 78v, and all of the women drawn here are drawn as if massaging or washing their ass with one hand.
XÇCSU OF (kıçcığını ov)
or
XÇC SU OF (Kıçcığı suyla ov / kıçı su ov)
may translate in English:
1> Rub your little/young ass (poop/butt)
2> Rub your/their-own small ass with water
We have said before that the author deliberately wrote some words separately, but they should not be written separately in Turkish. Moreover, we have shown examples of this. Likewise, the author sometimes combines separate words. Nor are they expected to be normally joined together. However, we think that the author deliberately did this job of splitting or concatenating words. We can probably say that the author himself wanted the texts he wrote to be as difficult to read as possible.
For this reason, two or three words written by the author can be mentioned here. In the author's spelling: "XÇCSU OF" or "XÇC SU OF" is written. Here, in the first variant (XÇCSU OF), it can be evaluated as the -SU word-affix at the end of the first word. In the second variant, we can treat SU as a word. So, if "SU" is a word, it means "water" and "aqua".
See: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
In writing "XÇCSU OF", the root of the word is written in the form "XÇ-". This is an abbreviated spelling. The first sound, "X", has turned into "H" and "K" sounds today in Anatolian-Turkish. Here, we write the word "XÇ-" by the author today as "KIÇ" (ass & poop & butt). A very small sound change can be counted in the 600 years that have passed since then. It is known that today, in dialects of the Turkish language, X > H > K sounds are constantly transforming into each other.
Please see the meaning content of the word KIÇ here; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Here, the first word-suffix adjoining this root word is -C-. This suffix is also a diminutive and polite preposition written in abbreviated form.
The author used to write kıçcı (XÇC-) > kıçcık/kıçcığı" (small-ass/young-ass) instead of "kıç" (XÇ- > ass). I don't know the exact meaning of this in English, but I can say that it means "little/younger ass" in a sense. Here, this word suffix adds the meanings of "small, little, minor, young, younger, petty" to the root word. So it is possible to translate it (XÇC-) as "small ass", "young ass" or "petty ass" in English.
See this -C- (cıı/cığı/cık/... etc) > source about this suffixe: Miandoab, N. Z. "The concept of reduction in Turkish language and reduction suffixes: (a comparative study with modern Oghuz dialects)". Journal of Turkology 22 (2018): 213-237 / Mıandoab, N. Z. "Türk dilinde küçültme kavramı ve küçültme ekleri (modern Oğuz lehçeleri ile karşılaştırmalı bir inceleme)". Türkoloji Dergisi 22 (2018 ) : 213-237
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In this case, the "-SU" suffixe at the and as (XÇC-SU) is English equivalent of "the, that, their, his/her". Also, this suffix "-si/-su/-si-/-su" can sometimes indicate a reinforcement function in the language and sometimes a relation of belonging too.
In this case the word XÇCSU means "your/their young ass" & "your/their-own ass" in English.
But if "-SU" at this end is evaluated as not suffix, but as a word, it means "water". See: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
The word "OF" at the end is now written as "OV".
F > V sound transformation is a situation that is frequently seen both in Old Turkish period and today between different dialects. Also, this sound conversion is often recorded in VM-texts too in same way. (So this is not the only example, we have seen the same sound change while reading other words.)
You can see the semantic content of the word OV in dictionaries in the form of "OV-MAK" with the word-suffix "-mak". (I have explained why this is so and the function of the -mak suffix earlier in these pages.)
Meaning of the word OV / OV-mak are:
1) rub
2) scrub
3) scour
4) rub down
5) massage
6) knead
7) scour away
8) scour off
9) to stroke (okşamak)
Please see this OV (OVmak): You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
In this case, the translation difference between the author's writing of XÇCSU OF (kıçcığını ov) or XÇC SU OF (Kıçcığı suyla ov / kıçı su ov) may translate in English as:
1> Rub your little/young ass
2> Rub your/their-own ass with water
In both cases we see a clear match between the drawing and these words. Because the author has drawn female figures bathing on page 78v, and all of the women drawn here are drawn as if massaging or washing their ass with one hand.