04-10-2021, 11:32 AM
[quote="Aga Tentakulus" pid='47461' dateline='1633333674']
[What you consider "sazak" is the houseleek, roofleek.
It is one of the oldest medicinal plants.
Scientific name: Sempervivum tectorum, formerly "Jovis barbam". (Johanis beard)
In German-speaking countries alone it has more than 20 names.]
Hi,
I think we are talking about two different plants right now, because the plant you call SAZAK and the plant I call SAZAK in Turkish are two different species.
(On the previous two pages I showed that several different words matched the drawings made inside the VM. One of that name/word is SAZAK.)
The author wrote this word 600 years ago in the form of SAZAK.
Today, we still write this word in the form of as SAZAK in 2021.
So, there was not a single sound (phonetic value) change.
Moreover, the plant we call SAZAK provides a similarity with the author's drawing.
To see this word with its meaning content, just look at the dictionary link we have provided.
In other words, you do not need to know Turkish for the words I have shared examples of. I don't expect you to believe me either. Please you will just open the dictionary link and see if it is written in the same way and what is its meaning.
Yes you are not criticizing the possibility of Turkish writing. Yes you say that you are criticizing what we do with the clues.
But please do not look up the meaning of the word SAZAK in German or other language dictionaries so as not to catch the wrong end. Instead, see the page that shows the meaning of the Turkish word SAZAK, the link of which we share here. At least if you move the words on that page to the google translate section, you will see the result. There the word has multiple meanings. You copy the meanings found in the Turkey Turkish Dialects Dictionary. One of the meaning contents there (in the middle part) showed the meaning of "Myrtle Tree".
When you open the article "Mersin" in the same dictionary, there is the following explanation;
"... mersin ağacı, sazak (Myrtus communis) ..."
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So, the common meaning of the words SAZAK and MERSİN as synonym is "Myrtus communis".
The author drew the plant without leaves. Because she/he only mentioned its fruits, roots and branches in the page content as I understand.
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[What you consider "sazak" is the houseleek, roofleek.
It is one of the oldest medicinal plants.
Scientific name: Sempervivum tectorum, formerly "Jovis barbam". (Johanis beard)
In German-speaking countries alone it has more than 20 names.]
Hi,
I think we are talking about two different plants right now, because the plant you call SAZAK and the plant I call SAZAK in Turkish are two different species.
(On the previous two pages I showed that several different words matched the drawings made inside the VM. One of that name/word is SAZAK.)
The author wrote this word 600 years ago in the form of SAZAK.
Today, we still write this word in the form of as SAZAK in 2021.
So, there was not a single sound (phonetic value) change.
Moreover, the plant we call SAZAK provides a similarity with the author's drawing.
To see this word with its meaning content, just look at the dictionary link we have provided.
In other words, you do not need to know Turkish for the words I have shared examples of. I don't expect you to believe me either. Please you will just open the dictionary link and see if it is written in the same way and what is its meaning.
Yes you are not criticizing the possibility of Turkish writing. Yes you say that you are criticizing what we do with the clues.
But please do not look up the meaning of the word SAZAK in German or other language dictionaries so as not to catch the wrong end. Instead, see the page that shows the meaning of the Turkish word SAZAK, the link of which we share here. At least if you move the words on that page to the google translate section, you will see the result. There the word has multiple meanings. You copy the meanings found in the Turkey Turkish Dialects Dictionary. One of the meaning contents there (in the middle part) showed the meaning of "Myrtle Tree".
When you open the article "Mersin" in the same dictionary, there is the following explanation;
"... mersin ağacı, sazak (Myrtus communis) ..."
So, the common meaning of the words SAZAK and MERSİN as synonym is "Myrtus communis".