Cvetka's Slovenian Theory Thread
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Slovenians had a historical connection to Alsace that goes all the way back to the spread of Paulicians in the 7thcentury and  the Bogomils in the 10th century, who became known in Italy as Patareni, in France as Cathars and Albigensians. These 'heretical' religious movements also had influenced the medieval intellectuals who used symbolic art to criticize the official Roman Church. They were also prone to the  mystical brand of religion which explained the biblical writing as symbolic. Waldensians and Hussites in the 15th century had origin in the Bogomils.
In politics, historical connection goes back to Welfs, Sponheims and Habsburgs who ruled Carinthia ever since Slovenians lost their independence in the 8th century. Habsburg's Rudolf IV established the Duchy of Carniola (present day Slovenia). 
My main reason for the Alsace connection is the author of the VM, who I believe was Nicholas Kempf from Strasburg. 
It has been pointed out by many VM researchers that the author of the VM came from Southern Germany or Alsace, and that he was a mystic. When I recognized Slovenian words, I began to look for the mystic in Slovenian territory and the only one I could find in that period in Slovenia was a Carthusian monk Nicholas Kempf. He wrote his Mystical Theology most likely in the Charterhouse Pleterje in Slovenia. He was a prior of two Carthusian monasteries in Slovenia for over 40 years.

It has also been pointed out by some VM researchers, particularly by Koen G., that the VM contains subtle religious images. The use of flowers and water in religious imagery goes all the way to the Old Testament, and even to the older religions. The author of the VM used the floral imagery, which was very popular in the Middle Ages. The flowers were most suitable to explain mystical religious experience, because the germination of flowers was as mysterious as the propagation of words. In Slovenian language, the poems were compared to flowers.
Petersen traced the Archer image in the VM to Alsace. I found some more images of Zodiac signs in the book of Henrich of Laufenberg written in Swabian dialect of German.

I also have to point out that the medieval artists had different understanding of religion than the Roman Church was teaching. They were focused on the mystical transformative power of the words, particularly if they are spoken in the language that people can understand.
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RE: Cvetka's Theory Thread - by tavie - 03-12-2025, 01:11 PM
RE: Cvetka's Slovenian Theory Thread - by Typpi - 06-02-2026, 10:48 AM
RE: Cvetka's Slovenian Theory Thread - by Rafal - 10-07-2026, 01:52 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory threadp - by Koen G - 26-08-2021, 07:59 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory threadp - by cvetkakocj@rogers.com - 27-08-2021, 12:31 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 27-08-2021, 02:03 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 27-08-2021, 04:15 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by tavie - 28-08-2021, 01:36 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by R. Sale - 28-08-2021, 07:20 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by MarcoP - 29-08-2021, 09:45 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by tavie - 29-08-2021, 04:26 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by tavie - 29-08-2021, 04:50 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by tavie - 29-08-2021, 05:02 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Battler - 06-10-2021, 01:08 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 19-06-2023, 09:55 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 27-04-2024, 07:18 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 27-04-2024, 08:59 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 30-04-2024, 04:24 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 30-04-2024, 05:38 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 21-06-2024, 10:00 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 21-06-2024, 10:04 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 21-06-2024, 10:29 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 20-07-2024, 12:50 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by ReneZ - 20-07-2024, 01:57 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Rafal - 20-07-2024, 03:28 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 21-07-2024, 02:28 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Rafal - 21-07-2024, 03:45 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by R. Sale - 21-07-2024, 05:15 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by nablator - 21-07-2024, 10:25 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Battler - 26-09-2024, 05:45 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Battler - 29-09-2024, 04:13 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 29-09-2024, 09:44 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Battler - 29-09-2024, 10:26 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by Koen G - 29-09-2024, 10:32 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by ReneZ - 01-10-2024, 08:26 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by bt2901 - 04-02-2025, 11:26 AM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory thread - by ReneZ - 04-02-2025, 01:31 PM
RE: [split] Cvetka's theory threadp - by VoyBear - 24-03-2025, 04:51 PM

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