Calgary engineer believes he's cracked the mysterious Voynich Manuscript
(10-08-2020, 09:27 AM)Alin_J wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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It was a lengthy explanation in bad English. Thank you for reading with patience.

It certainly was, and only a fraction seemed to contain any clues malleable to an answer to the actual question I wanted an answer to. No disrespect, but why is it so hard to answer questions briefly and to the point? Contrary to what you wrote in the beginning of your answer I was actually not requesting additional information, merely the answer to the specific question I wrote.

Please understand that we (I mean the people presumably interested in your theories) are not children, and we have only a little time to devote on the myriad of VMS related theories and discussions in this world. Please also understand that when someone asks a simple question in few words, that means that the questioner is probably expecting an answer written in the very same manner, briefly and simple put. Then, maybe if additional information is needed to understand some details, would it be too much to ask that you please summarize them to much shorter in length, as well as to not include any irrelevant information which takes long time to sort out from the relevant information? The probability is otherwise high that much information is lost in the reading/parsing process, or that the train of thought is lost. As I wrote, I mean no disrespect, but in all honesty I think it is actually quite disrespectful of you to communicate in this sort of way, expecting that the listener has all the time in the world to listen to every little detail of your theories and thoughts right away, when actually one is only in the beginning examining/evaluating stage.

Ok, so back to the actual question... 
You actually did provide a few translations of the separate word-incidents of words possibly related to daiin which I can understand:
SAM: straw, grass/sap, candle, wax, solid-parafin, SEM: medicine, candle, wax, beeswax, silver, SAGIN: milking, lactating, milch, complete, SAGIM: milking. 

However, when you give examples as frequently occurring suffixes, you once again did not give any translations into English. I don't understand the cyrillic alphabet either. Would it not be possible to at least translate the most common word+suffixes?

Thanks, and Best Regards.



Dear Alin,

I think people on this platform are mostly one of the PIE rooted language speaker. I try to answer about some questions which related with completely different language. In my opinion, briefly answering these questions will not fully help anyone who trying to understand this issue in linguistic detail. For this reason, I think it is necessary to mention the details related to the main subject.

I am not a child either and I do not need your that kind of basic suggestions to learn something. If you do not like to read my long comments/articles or if you find that articles useless for some reason, please do not read them.

Many topics are discussed under many different headings on the Voynich Ninja page. I also have an opinion about those issues, but I do not write any comments under those titles with my limited English. 

I do not understand why are you reading my long articles/comments if you think those are useless or long that while there are many different articles on this web page. I also want you to know that I consider your comment as disrespectful.

The subject of this section here is exactly about our VMS related work only. Therefore, I only share my comments in this section. If you do not want to read long articles, please feel free and you do not have to look my comments under this title. Moreover, I do not think that you are in a position to decide what and how much information should be given, since you do not have information about Turkish. 

Those who are interested in what I write will read it.

I'm on vacation right now and I have some time to share some information here in this particular part of this web-page. For this reason, when those who are curious about the subject can ask some question and I can answer them as I want in this subject area. When my vacation is over, I will not have much time to visit this page anyway. 

Thank you sharing your opinion,


You can see the word-suffix you mentioned in the modern Turkish poem below in Latin alphabet.

The name of the author of this poem: Niyazi Bilgin
Name of this poem: *Ne Yapsam Bilmiyorum* (* I Don't Know What To Do *)

[Source: Niyazi Bilgin <https://www.gulum.net/sair/bolumler.php?op=goster&id=4391>]
 
Note: I marked the words that repeat twice in this poem, in red. Also, the last voice of one of these repetitions has been lengthened. (example: of offfffff) All of these have also seen in 600 years old VMS texts.
 
 
*Ne Yapsam Bilmiyorum*
 
Ne yapsam bilmiyorum...
Versem aklımı yem diye kuşlara.
Yatsam bir tren yolunun kenarında.
Çıkıp bir ağacın dalında uyusam.
Yolun ortasında oturup sigara içsem.
Arabamın el frenini açıp salsam caddeye.
Hiç durmadan koşsam çılgınca.
Duvarların üzerinde yürüsem
Ve durup durduk yere
Bağırsam birinin kulağına hiç yoktan.
Saçlarımı kazıtsam sıfıra
Ve yanımdan geçen birine atsam yumruğu.
Alıp başımı gitsem bilinmezliğe.
Girip bir saunaya saatlerce kalsam.
Gecenin bir saatinde gidip iş yerime çalışsam,
Ne işin var burada diyenleri dövsem.
Hiç durmadan sigara içsem.
Gitar çalsam delice.
Binanın tepesine çıkıp şehri izlesem.
Buz gibi suda yüzsem.
Müziğin sesini sonuna kadar açsam .
Kapıyı çalanlara açmasam kapıyı.
Yemek yesem çatlayana kadar.
Ağlasam gözyaşlarım kuruyana kadar
Ve birden başlasam gülmeye katıla katıla.
Bilgisayarda oyun oynasam,
Yenilince atsam camdan aşağıya.
Elbiselerimi değiştirip dursam
Ve her değiştirdiğimde ,
Arkadaşıma sorsam nasıl oldu diye.
Bütün renkleri karıştırsam birbirine;
Mavi hariç !!!
Ve serpsem bir tuvalin üstüne.
Dalında meyve koparsam,
Ve yoldan geçen birine versem.
Bisikletime binsem ve başka şehre gitsem.
Sonra tekerini patlatıp otostop çeksem,
Yarı yolda inip geri dönsem.
Bir taksiye binip şehri dolaşıp geri evime gelsem.
Uyusam hiç kalkmadan günlerce.
Sessiz sessiz otursam.
Kardeşimi ziyarete gitsem ,
Ve cebimde ne kadar para varsa hepsini ona Versem.
Elbiselerimi yırtıp otobüsçüye param olmadığımı söylesem,
Beni götürmesini istesem.
Gitmesem işe günlerce,
Daha sonra gece gündüz çalışsam.
Arabamın önüne pervane taksam ve uçmaya çalışsam,
Uçamayınca ağırlıktan olduğunu düşünüp
Pervaneyi elime alıp kendim uçmaya çalışsam.
Düşüp bir yerimi kırsam.
Alçılı alçılı dolaşsam aylarca.
Durmadan seni düşünsem
Düşünsem düşünsem...
of offfffffff
Neler yapsam bilmiyorum sensiz
Aslında bir sen olsan bir de ben...
Hiçbir şey yapmadan seni izlesem.
 
Niyazi Bilgin


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RE: Calgary engineer believes he's cracked the mysterious Voynich Manuscript - by Ahmet Ardıç - 10-08-2020, 01:31 PM

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