23-03-2020, 03:11 PM
(14-03-2020, 10:10 AM)Koen G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.As I see it, there's a level playing field.
Yes, unaltered language is statistically improbable.
But complex ciphers and algorithmic nonsense generation are anachronistic, even at more modest scales. As far as we know, it just didn't happen.
So far, we know of no linguistic text which behaves like the VM. But I don't see why any alternative with just as little parallels in reality should be preferred.
Some people say the Voynich could not be in cipher as we can break all the ciphers of the time. However there were ciphers at that time and major cipher advances throughout the 15th century, it was quite a dynamic time in cipher development, so the idea that a Voynich cipher could not be produced during that period is, I think, false. In fact I could produce a cipher with a few small modifications to early 15th century cipher techniques that would be very difficult to crack; just throw in a sizeable amount of null/filler/cover text and a large table of glyph pair homophone lookups and you have something very hard to break. The author would not need to be a genius to produce such a cipher and I believe such a cipher could display the statistical and other phenomena that others point to and that I am pretty familiar with.
I tend to view it as though linguists like to view Voynichese as a language and cipher people as a cipher, it could be argued that we all come with our own biases.

