Most certain plant ID's?

[Linda]

Knapweed for f2r seems about as universally accepted as you can get

Of course, when you say that, someone will come along from another universe.

My pet id for f2r is creeping thistle, Cirsium arvense, because of the how the roots are drawn. They are fast growing,  perrenial, edible, and can be used to aid against soil erosion.



Unfortunately the leaves aren't well represented but neither do the drawn leaves accurately depict those of knapweeds that i have seen, and the overall drawing brings to mind a more robust plant. Knapweeds in my area at least tend to be sparse, if the flowers weren't there you would see right through them. Some become tumbleweeds, they don't generally have lasting roots.

My second choice at this point is Rhaponticum repens, Russian knapweed, again for the roots. The leaves are closer but still no cigar.

With regard to the word Centauria, if involved, scientific names for plants were determined much later and so various plants not so named now could have been referred to as such.


As for the plant id I think is most certain, the teasel drawing is pretty good on f43v. I think the leaves were drawn at least partially dried, which is why they are so curly. 



I've lost my database of ids, well, it is somewhere on a dead laptop...but will check out the rest of the list.