(01-03-2018, 03:36 PM)Koen Gh. wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
I wonder if the "u to ayi" thing might be one of those instances where they read a digit out fully, kind of like you'd spell "w8" instead of "wait". Just guessing..
Keep in mind that the letter they are interpreting as "u" is EVA-y (which is at the end of a disproportionately large number of tokens, just as "o" is disproportionately represented at the beginning of tokens). EVA-y is also fairly often at the beginning (and very infrequently in the middle). It is positioned in much the same way as the Latin "9" abbreviation which it resembles. It is not positioned like a normal vowel in natural languages. How many natural languages place "u" mostly at the ends of words, sometimes at the beginning and rarely anywhere else? I haven't found any.
So once, again, just as I illustrated above with the letter "i", the glyph they transliterated to "u", a vowel, doesn't behave like a vowel.
- If EVA-y represents "u" then why does it not show up much more frequently in the middles of words as it should in both old and modern Turkish?
- If EVA-y represents some unspecified ending (in the same way they expanded "u" to "ayi"), then which character actually represents "u"?
As soon as you try to decipher anything other than small blocks of text or labels, you have to find an explanation for these positional inconsistencies and ATA didn't address these problems in the video. Unfortunately, they didn't show how they got from their transliteration to their translation for the larger blocks of text so we have to wait and see, but they've already demonstrated that they are allowing themselves to change individual letters in two different ways, to create meaning, so perhaps they are also allowing themselves leeway with the grammar, as well.