HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN
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(26-07-2017, 05:18 PM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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(25-07-2017, 09:49 AM)Koen Gh. wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Wolfgang, your solution is worthless if you need others to use it for you. If you are certain about your system, you should be able to decipher the Voynich yourself.

as I said ad nauseam, 400 DPI Beinecke enlargements are not enough, I need at least 700/800 DPI, it is not so difficult
letter saw at microscope matches a voynich letter I found, please watch video for more details

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And as I have said, ad nauseum, and demonstrated with a picture of a ruler over the folios, the scans we see are higher resolution than what the scribe with the quill pen had to work with.

I think you should try to USE a quill pen on vellum and see how many unique shapes you can fit into half a centimeter. Maybe then you would appreciate how difficult it is to replicate shapes, even ones the full size of a glyph. Trying to replicate subtle shapes 1/8th the size of a glyph or smaller consistently enough that you can recognize them when you see them again could only be done with a microscope, an unusually steady hand, and special drawing tools (not a quill pen).


Whoever penned the VMS was not skilled with a pen and was dealing with a bumpy surface. That is obvious from the slant, the wiggles, and the very uneven flow of the ink. Some of the differences in macro shapes might be meaningful (like the length of a tail), but not 12 individual strokes that make up a letter. I don't believe it.


Mr. Koen, Mr. Anton,  first of all thank you for your review, every contribution is valued: you are right about quill and stencil, as I show in my last video “BACK TO REAL DIMENSION”

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 the quill point is too thick to write easily within stencil, anyway it has been very useful to face with real dimensions because I defined these things:
CONCLUSIONS
First of all to work / write at this magnification level I used a light head magnifying glass 3,5 X (not a microscope) perfectly compatible with 15th century technology, I attach photo of glasses I used, plastic lenses 3,5 X

I used a brass foil about 0.2 mm. thick, more workable if gold, details available can be found in 15 th century jewelry;  I made a stencil measuring  18 x 12 mm. high like original
 
Probably they did not use a quill that moves difficulty within stencil but a very simple pen-nib like the type I used (it does not take a very big mental and technologic jump to think of making a quill point using metal to write thinner ...)

IMPORTANT! Every stencil  is a only piece, I do not have to make it equal to something else, it is important that curves are different from each other in order to distinguish them.
And I have a last check, the LATIN WORD, every Voynich letter contains a Latin word: even if I don’t recognize one microscopic symbol I recognize the word like: Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteers be at the rghit pclae
 
That's all. Giuseppe Bianchi


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HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 28-12-2016, 08:58 AM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by -JKP- - 28-12-2016, 11:20 AM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Koen G - 28-12-2016, 11:57 AM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 28-12-2016, 12:28 PM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 28-12-2016, 01:16 PM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by -JKP- - 28-12-2016, 02:13 PM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 29-12-2016, 12:08 PM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by -JKP- - 29-12-2016, 05:37 PM
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RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Diane - 30-12-2016, 12:51 PM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by -JKP- - 30-12-2016, 02:02 PM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by stellar - 30-12-2016, 02:27 PM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 03-01-2017, 08:25 AM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by -JKP- - 03-01-2017, 06:51 PM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 03-01-2017, 08:31 AM
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RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 04-01-2017, 08:50 AM
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RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 04-01-2017, 05:29 PM
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RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 05-01-2017, 08:07 AM
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RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 09-01-2017, 10:35 AM
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RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Koen G - 25-07-2017, 09:49 AM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 26-07-2017, 11:46 AM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by -JKP- - 26-07-2017, 05:18 PM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 27-07-2017, 09:03 AM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by -JKP- - 27-07-2017, 06:30 PM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Anton - 26-07-2017, 06:01 PM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by ReneZ - 26-07-2017, 07:13 PM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 27-07-2017, 09:15 AM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Anton - 27-07-2017, 06:57 PM
RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 28-07-2017, 06:55 AM
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RE: HOW VOYNICH WAS WRITTEN - by Wolfgang99 - 28-07-2017, 11:20 AM
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