16-06-2017, 09:08 AM
(This post was last modified: 16-06-2017, 10:48 AM by voynichbombe.
Edit Reason: added addendum, fixed typos..
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Sorry for being slow, Anton:
>"graphically decomposed to", but also "purposefully composed out of"
Yes that process is reversible. All con scripts are constructed this way. What other way would be imaginable?
> many other possible opportunities.
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How many possible opportunities do you see? (not counting colored, rotating, and lovecraftian systems
Maybe the crux is to be found in the beginning:
> a constructed alphabet. In other words, it's not taken from any script existing apriori, but rather invented by the guy(s) behind the Voynich
There is no such thing. It is impossible NOT to make it resemble anything, and why would you try to do so?
> irrespectively of whether it conveys a cipher, an artificial language or even a natural language
Again, there is no such thing. It is either a cipher or a writing system. You could treat an unknown script as a cipher, but at some point you need to decide. The type of underlying language behind the writing system is kind of irrelevant.. just that there is one, always (there is a mix of nomenclatures here, btw.).
Addendum:
>dash, underscore, geometric shapes (circle, square, triangle, star)
These are not primitives. A circle can be constructed by two curves, one mirrored and translated. The others can be contstructed out of rotated & translated lines. Stars can be graphemes as ideograms, for example (you'd marvel on how many different stars your operating system vendor has put in the hidden universal font on your machine).
>"graphically decomposed to", but also "purposefully composed out of"
Yes that process is reversible. All con scripts are constructed this way. What other way would be imaginable?
> many other possible opportunities.
Look, all invented, made up: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
How many possible opportunities do you see? (not counting colored, rotating, and lovecraftian systems
Maybe the crux is to be found in the beginning:
> a constructed alphabet. In other words, it's not taken from any script existing apriori, but rather invented by the guy(s) behind the Voynich
There is no such thing. It is impossible NOT to make it resemble anything, and why would you try to do so?
> irrespectively of whether it conveys a cipher, an artificial language or even a natural language
Again, there is no such thing. It is either a cipher or a writing system. You could treat an unknown script as a cipher, but at some point you need to decide. The type of underlying language behind the writing system is kind of irrelevant.. just that there is one, always (there is a mix of nomenclatures here, btw.).
Addendum:
>dash, underscore, geometric shapes (circle, square, triangle, star)
These are not primitives. A circle can be constructed by two curves, one mirrored and translated. The others can be contstructed out of rotated & translated lines. Stars can be graphemes as ideograms, for example (you'd marvel on how many different stars your operating system vendor has put in the hidden universal font on your machine).