(08-08-2020, 12:02 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.After all, apparently a letter in a simple phrase had to be corrected
If it's a correction, and not obfuscation.
About that "thorn". I doubt that it's a thorn, because its rather out of context geographically and by XV century thorn was being obsoleted as far as I know. Presently it's preserved only in Icelandic/Faroese. But regardless, a single letter suggests an abbreviation. What abbreviation that could be?
Why would they obfuscate marginalia?
Depending on the style of script, that top letter also resembles "wynn", which was spelled in various ways, wynn, wyn, win, wen and was sometimes written similarly to thorn. Thorn leaned slightly more toward a y-shape. Wynn leaned slightly more toward a p-shape.
So, maybe the word "ven" on the next line relates to the character above it.
(08-08-2020, 01:37 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Why would they obfuscate marginalia?
I developed a possible explanation here: You are not allowed to view links.
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But we can still see the original letter underneath, what kind of obfuscation is that?
The lines on top of the "m" are quite strange. If it's changed into a "d", it's not a very good one. It's disconnected, too large, and poorly shaped.
Usually they scrape or remove with chemicals rather than over-writing. Over-writing wasn't common. Re-inking sometimes happened, but that was to replace faded ink, not to change the letters underneath.
I keep wondering if those lines were underneath and "mel" was written on top but it doesn't look that way. It looks like the darker lines are on top.
(08-08-2020, 07:50 AM)Helmut Winkler Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Whatever the symbol written over the m is (to me it looks like an at - abbr.), it is the same symbol as that before the en
and does not look like a correction...
The upper stroke differs. Ok. We can assume that the reason is the edging. But we can't be sure whether it is correction or not because of the blot exactly in this symbol.
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There could be many explanations, for example, I can imagine that the marginalia play role of hints or red herrings, or either.
I mean that the author or a group of authors made the marginalia to look like Latin, German, French, Italian, even English to hide the language of the text. Some words remind Greek. Possibly, the text is in quite another language, or maybe, one of the languages is the language of the main content, and, not excluded that it is multilingual.
As I wrote, I think the original text of the You are not allowed to view links.
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γ imply Latin
g, the right letter is
o, the left and the bottom ones are
d, reading clockwise we will get the word "godd" (god -Middle English).
So, it can be a rebus or just a deception.
(08-08-2020, 02:41 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.But we can still see the original letter underneath, what kind of obfuscation is that?
Still we don't know what's the original reading. That especially if some letters were added.
The mistake you are making is that you ignore the obvious
The 66r shows a person with some malady in his lower regions who is to have a plaster from mel/Mehl made into a Mus
en = en- or emplastrum, the thorn is the same p we have on 116v, d is likely a kind of nota - sign.
The question is, if there is a connection with the single Voynichese line.
I have posted this before