The Voynich Ninja

The University retracted the story:

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(16-05-2019, 12:23 AM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The manuscript "has been deciphered", but "Cheshire hopes that fellow researchers will now use his findings to translate the entire Voynich manuscript."

As (almost) always, the decipherer leaves the deciphering to others.

It's reasonable for somebody to say that they have discovered how the script and the text works but aren't really qualified to translate it all. Translating a small section of the text might be enough to demonstrate validity if supported by a well reasoned solution.

This was basically the case with Ventris and Chadwick. Ventris knew enough Greek to determine the language of his solution and that it could make sense. Chadwick joined him to provide the professional knowledge needed to make the full translations.

Most medieval languages are relatively obscure. I doubt that anybody currently working on the Voynich text has the kind of in-depth knowledge needed to perfectly understand the resulting text.

(16-05-2019, 06:51 PM)doranchak Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The University retracted the story:

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Good.

(16-05-2019, 06:56 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

(16-05-2019, 06:51 PM)doranchak Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The University retracted the story:

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Good.

The University is now distancing themselves. "This research was entirely the author's own work and is not affiliated with the University of Bristol..."

Most medieval languages are relatively obscure. I doubt that anybody currently working on the Voynich text has the kind of in-depth knowledge needed to perfectly understand the resulting text.
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I think that is a very ill cinsidered statement

Quote:Most medieval languages are relatively obscure. I doubt that anybody currently working on the Voynich text has the kind of in-depth knowledge needed to perfectly understand the resulting text.

Helmut Winkler Wrote:I think that is a very ill cinsidered statement

I disagree. Most medieval languages are relatively obscure. The number of people who know a lot about them is small. The number of people studying the Voynich manuscript is smaller. The chance that somebody working on the Voynich text today just so happens to have in-depth knowledge of the resulting language is unlikely. Maybe we'll get lucky and it will be Greek or Latin, but I highly doubt it. (Even then, there was a recent Greek theory where the differences between three or more Greek languages was crucially important.)

VRT news updated their article with a question mark and Davis' remarks. 
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Also, a link to "een blog van JK Peterson". You're riding the waves of Cheshire's fame, JKP

Yuck. Fame is something I don't want and riding on HIS coattails I particularly don't want.


The only thing I care about is good research and getting good information out there to combat the tsunami of bad.

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(16-05-2019, 06:52 PM)Emma May Smith Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

(16-05-2019, 12:23 AM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The manuscript "has been deciphered", but "Cheshire hopes that fellow researchers will now use his findings to translate the entire Voynich manuscript."

As (almost) always, the decipherer leaves the deciphering to others.

It's reasonable for somebody to say that they have discovered how the script and the text works but aren't really qualified to translate it all. Translating a small section of the text might be enough to demonstrate validity if supported by a well reasoned solution.

Emma, as spartans replied "if", I will reply - "might".

And, what is most curious, this is the question that does not seem to bother each new Voynich-solver: "Why is my solution better than other ones?" It is as if each new solution were the only one.