20-06-2026, 02:34 PM
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The geomantic theory
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(20-06-2026, 02:34 PM)JustAnotherTheory wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(20-06-2026, 12:12 PM)Koen G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(19-06-2026, 09:40 PM)oshfdk wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Your examples look okeyish lol
21-06-2026, 08:47 AM
@ReneZ, I would be interested in hearing your opinion about this geomantic method of generating Voynichese. What do you think, would such a method be plausible for the early 1400s? Do you think this idea has some merit (any at all)?
Or just a waste of everyone's time. Any kind of input from experts such as yourself would be appreciated.
21-06-2026, 09:19 AM
(21-06-2026, 08:47 AM)JustAnotherTheory wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@ReneZ, I would be interested in hearing your opinion about this geomantic method of generating Voynichese. What do you think, would such a method be plausible for the early 1400s? Do you think this idea has some merit (any at all)? I'm no René, but I doubt René is a clairvoyant. To actually assess your method much more data is needed, which I think at least 3 people have already said in this thread. Either there should be a precise specification of how to generate a few pages of text this way using random inputs or you could generate a few pages yourself and share the result and the exact method. If you want just a gut feeling, then I'd say this method won't work, because it lacks any sophisticated mechanism to explain many statistical peculiarities of Voynichese.
21-06-2026, 10:22 AM
(21-06-2026, 09:19 AM)oshfdk wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.generate a few pages of text this way using random inputs or you could generate a few pages yourself and share the result and the exact method. Thanks for the feedback! I will start work on this right now.
21-06-2026, 10:57 AM
(21-06-2026, 08:47 AM)JustAnotherTheory wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@ReneZ, I would be interested in hearing your opinion about this geomantic method of generating Voynichese. What do you think, would such a method be plausible for the early 1400s? Do you think this idea has some merit (any at all)? My answer might disappoint you.... This is one of quite a few threads that I don't read in detail because it does not seem promising from the start. All methods of generating random text have the same problem: they fail to explain the peculiar features of the MS text, except when the method is reverse-engineered from the text itself.
21-06-2026, 09:02 PM
(This post was last modified: 21-06-2026, 09:03 PM by JustAnotherTheory.)
(21-06-2026, 10:57 AM)ReneZ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.My answer might disappoint you.... Thank you very much, Mr, Z. To the contrary, I take such feedback as it is intended, an insightful criticism. I've coded the algorithm in Python this afternoon, and tried to generate a full page of Voynichese. The result is that some phrases look Voynichese, while the page itself as a whole does not. I conclude that either my initial parameters are wrong, or that the VMS was not generated in this manner. I think it is the latter. Thanks again |
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