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RE: Voynichese's letters
Stefan Wirtz_2 > 7 hours ago
(8 hours ago)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..]
However, if we try to substitute Latin letters somehow, we get nothing, because this is not a simple substitution, because it's not a simple substitution, but something based on it.
Well then try something different.
Voynichese is not Latin, it is not German.
Latin letters are a waste of time, but there is still no reason why this is not a „simple substitution“.
You are from Russia, should have some more ideas… -
RE: Voynichese's letters
ololololo > 7 hours ago
(7 hours ago)Stefan Wirtz_2 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
It will be interesting to hear your opinion, What is Voynich cipher like?? Let's just say that the Proto-Roman language and the code of the Cathars aren't accepted(8 hours ago)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..]
However, if we try to substitute Latin letters somehow, we get nothing, because this is not a simple substitution, because it's not a simple substitution, but something based on it.
Well then try something different.
Voynichese is not Latin, it is not German.
Latin letters are a waste of time, but there is still no reason why this is not a „simple substitution“.
You are from Russia, should have some more ideas…
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I also didn't know that living in Russia gives you more creativity. Although maybe you know it better... -
RE: Voynichese's letters
RobGea > 3 hours ago
(8 hours ago)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.My question is, is there a possibility that the cipher of the manuscript is based on numbers (in particular, Roman ones)?
Yes, it is possible, i see no reason why voynichese could not be based on numbers.
The resemblance of EVA-'iiin' and family to the Roman Numerals II, III, IIV, etc, have oft been remarked upon but idk of any deep attempts to link the two.
My light play with the idea
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Roman numerals to Voynicheesy
post by ReneZ about his mod2 cipher system but the links in that post are dead.
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A short post by Elmar Vogt about Cistercian numerals
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J.K.Petersens blog "Voynich portal" has a couple of posts about the similarites between voynichese and Greek and Roman numerals.
/a-helping-hand/ and /running-the-numbers/
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RE: Voynichese's letters
DG97EEB > 3 hours ago
Complete aside but found this wonderful article from New Scientist in the archives from 2005..https://www.voynich.net/Arch/2005/04/msg00050.html -
RE: Voynichese's letters
ololololo > 3 hours ago
(3 hours ago)RobGea Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Thank you very much! Well, I've looked at all the links, and it seems to me that my approach will be closer to yours. I once also tried to match the letters of the manuscript with Roman numerals, but in the end I fell into empty speculation. Of these, I managed to calculate e = 10, a = 5 and ch = 50, the rest I equated to Arabic, and as always, I did not find a place for the gallows. But I don't consider the failures of a layman to be an argument against, and i'm sure that the encryption with numbers is quite possible for the 15th century.(8 hours ago)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.My question is, is there a possibility that the cipher of the manuscript is based on numbers (in particular, Roman ones)?
Yes, it is possible, i see no reason why voynichese could not be based on numbers.
The resemblance of EVA-'iiin' and family to the Roman Numerals II, III, IIV, etc, have oft been remarked upon but idk of any deep attempts to link the two.
My light play with the idea
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Roman numerals to Voynicheesy
post by ReneZ about his mod2 cipher system but the links in that post are dead.
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A short post by Elmar Vogt about Cistercian numerals
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J.K.Petersens blog "Voynich portal" has a couple of posts about the similarites between voynichese and Greek and Roman numerals.
/a-helping-hand/ and /running-the-numbers/
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RE: Voynichese's letters
rikforto > 23 minutes ago
(7 hours ago)Stefan Wirtz_2 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.but there is still no reason why this is not a „simple substitution“
The letter ordering makes it extremely unlikely to be simple substitution for any language that does not have fairly rigid letter ordering. It is possible, of course, that someone will provide a representation of a language ameniable to Voynichese's peculiar ordering, but thus far nothing