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• RE: Why and how the text could be Bavarian

  JoJo_Jost > 3 hours ago

  I've noticed that these strange sentences make for a perfect constraint crib. Precisely because they usually allow for only one, or very, very few, possible interpretations. So now I’m looking for additional possible readings of these.
  
  The background: since I’m assuming a homophonic cipher in which, above all, the vowels are each represented by multiple bridge bigrams, it’s extremely difficult to crack this cipher.
  
  On top of that, there are likely different substitutions for consonants at positions C1 and C2—which makes it even harder.
  
  With the help of this crip idea, I might be able to solve some ciphers, which would be, so to speak, the thread to unravel the whole tangle.
  
  So, moving on—the next strange line:
  
  <f8v.8,+P0> okchol k sh.<->chol.chol.chol.cthaiin.dain
  
  k | sh.ch | o | l.ch | o | l.ch | o | l.cth | aiin
  
  K       V     K     V    K     V     k     V (aiin = ending)
  
  n       u/ü     zz     e    z     e     zz       en
  
  nuzze zezzen
  
  Standard German: Nüsse zu essen
  
  English: nuts to eat
  
  k= n (from the solution above)
  sh.ch = u/ü
  o= s/z/sz/zz (because these variants are used synonymously in Middle High German)
  l.ch = e
  l.cth ain = en (aiin still defined as an ending)
  
  Plausible, since an original line in the "Breslauer Arzneibuch" reads:
  “gip im haselnuzze zezzen. Mache im ein plaster uon haselnuzze” (Page 74)
  
  Hochdeutsch: Gib ihm Haselnüsse zu essen. Mache ihm ein Plaster von Haselnuss.
  Englisch: Give him some hazelnuts to eat. Make him a hazelnut plaster.
  
  Of course, this is still just a proof of concept and not necessarily the actual translation.
  However, if the letters found continue to align consistently with the possible solutions to the Strange Sentences, something might come of it.
  
  And one final note: These strange sentences were, among other things, a reason for assuming that it must be a hoax. Because such repetitions do not fit with normal language. With the Vowel Bridge Model (VBM), I can clearly refute exactly that.
  As you can see, the repetitive nature of the VMS can be easily explained by the VBM.

• RE: Why and how the text could be Bavarian

  JoJo_Jost > 3 hours ago

  If this line is really referring to hazelnuts, the question immediately arises as to whether the plant on page 8v is a hazelnut.
  
  The female hazelnut flower looks like this:
  
     
  
  Let’s say: It's a possible match
  
  The leaves look like this:
  
     
  
  You can see the serrations in the original VMS as well—and in the small leaf of the VMS, you can also see that it tapers to a point. That fits surprisingly well.
  
  The roots look like this:
  
         
  
  Let’s say: there is a certain resemblance.
  
  Conclusion: At the very least, this comparison isn’t entirely far-fetched. Interesting - very interesting...

• RE: Why and how the text could be Bavarian

  JoJo_Jost > 2 hours ago

  And I want to emphasize that I first found the words, then posted it, and only then did it occur to me to look at the plant.
  
  Also: there were initially several solutions (3) for the chol.chol.chol puzzle. But because of the qokedy puzzle, k=n was defined, and that narrowed the solution down to a single chain.
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