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• RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH

  DG97EEB > 25-06-2026, 01:30 PM

  (25-06-2026, 12:39 PM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is not the zodiac sign Capricorn. It is a depiction of a gazelle on a protective magical talisman seal for the Moon or Venus. Like the Ethiopian protective scrolls, the images contain magical symbols *charaktêres*. I will gradually add other seals for the remaining circular diagrams.

  
  Also, absolutely fascinating, but I do wonder how you then explain the overtly northern European dress of Gemini for example...  I'm reminded of Lisa's 3 rules....
  
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• RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH

  eggyk > 25-06-2026, 01:44 PM

  (25-06-2026, 12:39 PM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is not the zodiac sign Capricorn. It is a depiction of a gazelle on a protective magical talisman seal for the Moon or Venus. Like the Ethiopian protective scrolls, the images contain magical symbols *charaktêres*. I will gradually add other seals for the remaining circular diagrams.

  
  Well, its not capricorn, it's Aries. If not a zodiac symbol, why is it in a perfect sequence among the rest of the expected zodiac symbols? It's after pisces (two fish, undeniably pisces), and following it is a horned animal (probably a bull for taurus), then the rest follows too: the twins, (undeniably gemini), crabs (cancer), then a lion (undeniably leo), then a woman (virgo), then scales (undeniably libra), then a weird green animal (likely for scorpio), then a man shooting a (cross)bow (undeniably Sagittarius). 
  
  To identify these as anything other than zodiac symbols is to make a huge stretch, imo. It would mean the VMS author was deliberately misdirecting the reader.

• RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH

  Radim Dobeš > 25-06-2026, 01:56 PM

  (25-06-2026, 01:44 PM)eggyk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (25-06-2026, 12:39 PM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is not the zodiac sign Capricorn. It is a depiction of a gazelle on a protective magical talisman seal for the Moon or Venus. Like the Ethiopian protective scrolls, the images contain magical symbols *charaktêres*. I will gradually add other seals for the remaining circular diagrams.

  
  Well, its not capricorn, it's Aries. If not a zodiac symbol, why is it in a perfect sequence among the rest of the expected zodiac symbols? It's after pisces (two fish, undeniably pisces), and following it is a horned animal (probably a bull for taurus), then the rest follows too: the twins, (undeniably gemini), crabs (cancer), then a lion (undeniably leo), then a woman (virgo), then scales (undeniably libra), then a weird green animal (likely for scorpio), then a man shooting a (cross)bow (undeniably Sagittarius). 
  
  To identify these as anything other than zodiac symbols is to make a huge stretch, imo. It would mean the VMS author was deliberately misdirecting the reader.

  
  Yes, the entire VM is based on misleading the reader. For example, plants are not plants but parables and spiritual beings. You can research it over and over and it won't move. It's the same with these signs. They are magical seals, I will list books and sources. I have already proven that ladies in bathtubs are not in bathtubs.

• RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH

  eggyk > 25-06-2026, 02:10 PM

  (25-06-2026, 01:56 PM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes, the entire VM is based on misleading the reader. For example, plants are not plants but parables and spiritual beings. You can research it over and over and it won't move. It's the same with these signs. They are magical seals, I will list books and sources. I have already proven that ladies in bathtubs are not in bathtubs.

  
  With one image, or perhaps 2, i could get it. But you believe that the entire sequence of 10 symbols (in the correct order for the zodiac) represents something else? Even if that is so, and it's a deliberate ruse and misdirection for it's true meaning, you can't deny that symbols themselves are an attempt at drawing the zodiac symbols. 
  
  It's either the zodiac symbols, but each one secretly means something else, or it's the zodiac symbols, meaning the zodiac. Even if they are seperate magical seals somehow, they have been consciously drawn in the exact sequence expected for the zodiac. 
  
  The evidence needed for this to be believable is huge (10 seals that coincidentally look like the zodiac). Comparing the images to any old fish, or any old pair of people, or a random lion won't cut it.

• RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH

  Radim Dobeš > 25-06-2026, 02:15 PM

  (25-06-2026, 01:19 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (25-06-2026, 01:04 PM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (25-06-2026, 12:56 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Radim  Apologies if this is somewhere already in this long forum, but how do you explain the Swallowtail Merlons in your theory?

  
  Can you please tell me what kind of swallows these are and on what folio? I am also a short time into researching VM and I don't know the history completely. In order to answer as best as possible, please be more specific.

  
  Sure. On the Rosettes fold out we see some small drawings of castles and these castles have crenellations on their walls which are known as merlons. The shape of the merlon has specific significance. Mostly in medieval Europe these are square, but mainly but not exclusively, Italy, we see they have a notch cut in which resembles a Swallow's tail. This linked to the Ghibbeline who supported the Holy Roman Empire, and for a time adopting this shape on your walls was a sign of fealty. I think Koen may have been one of the first to spot them, and make the link to a European origin.

  
  I admit that from my point of view it is more of a historical-political topic what you are stating. I would rather represent this as some spiritual esoteric-magical symbolism. This rosette in my theory represents 1 heaven from the book of Enoch. Basically the Atmosphere.
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• RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH

  Radim Dobeš > 25-06-2026, 02:20 PM

  (25-06-2026, 02:10 PM)eggyk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (25-06-2026, 01:56 PM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes, the entire VM is based on misleading the reader. For example, plants are not plants but parables and spiritual beings. You can research it over and over and it won't move. It's the same with these signs. They are magical seals, I will list books and sources. I have already proven that ladies in bathtubs are not in bathtubs.

  
  With one image, or perhaps 2, i could get it. But you believe that the entire sequence of 10 symbols (in the correct order for the zodiac) represents something else? Even if that is so, and it's a deliberate ruse and misdirection for it's true meaning, you can't deny that symbols themselves are an attempt at drawing the zodiac symbols. 
  
  It's either the zodiac symbols, but each one secretly means something else, or it's the zodiac symbols, meaning the zodiac. Even if they are seperate magical seals somehow, they have been consciously drawn in the exact sequence expected for the zodiac. 
  
  The evidence needed for this to be believable is huge (10 seals that coincidentally look like the zodiac). Comparing the images to any old fish, or any old pair of people, or a random lion won't cut it.

  
  I will try to gradually identify these seals, proceeding systematically and based on Ethiopian, Arabic and Jewish books. It is interesting that this theory would also explain why the two are the same. Because this gazelle is common for Luna and for Venus.

• RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH

  Jorge_Stolfi > 25-06-2026, 03:09 PM

  (25-06-2026, 12:39 PM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is not the zodiac sign Capricorn. It is a depiction of a gazelle on a protective magical talisman seal for the Moon or Venus. Like the Ethiopian protective scrolls, the images contain magical symbols *charaktêres*. I will gradually add other seals for the remaining circular diagrams.

  But the writing is Arabic, mirrored left-to-right, correct?  Not Ethiopian.
  
  All the best, --stolfi

• RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH

  Radim Dobeš > 25-06-2026, 03:13 PM

  (25-06-2026, 03:09 PM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (25-06-2026, 12:39 PM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is not the zodiac sign Capricorn. It is a depiction of a gazelle on a protective magical talisman seal for the Moon or Venus. Like the Ethiopian protective scrolls, the images contain magical symbols *charaktêres*. I will gradually add other seals for the remaining circular diagrams.

  But the writing is Arabic, mirrored left-to-right, correct?  Not Ethiopian.
  
  All the best, --stolfi

  
  Yes, they are Arabic manuscripts.

• RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH

  DG97EEB > 25-06-2026, 03:16 PM

  (25-06-2026, 02:15 PM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (25-06-2026, 01:19 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (25-06-2026, 01:04 PM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (25-06-2026, 12:56 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Radim  Apologies if this is somewhere already in this long forum, but how do you explain the Swallowtail Merlons in your theory?

  
  Can you please tell me what kind of swallows these are and on what folio? I am also a short time into researching VM and I don't know the history completely. In order to answer as best as possible, please be more specific.

  
  Sure. On the Rosettes fold out we see some small drawings of castles and these castles have crenellations on their walls which are known as merlons. The shape of the merlon has specific significance. Mostly in medieval Europe these are square, but mainly but not exclusively, Italy, we see they have a notch cut in which resembles a Swallow's tail. This linked to the Ghibbeline who supported the Holy Roman Empire, and for a time adopting this shape on your walls was a sign of fealty. I think Koen may have been one of the first to spot them, and make the link to a European origin.

  
  I admit that from my point of view it is more of a historical-political topic what you are stating. I would rather represent this as some spiritual esoteric-magical symbolism. This rosette in my theory represents 1 heaven from the book of Enoch. Basically the Atmosphere.
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  You've linked to a German woodcut. Forgive me, I don't see the link to Enoch

• RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH

  Radim Dobeš > 26-06-2026, 09:32 AM

  (25-06-2026, 01:30 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (25-06-2026, 12:39 PM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is not the zodiac sign Capricorn. It is a depiction of a gazelle on a protective magical talisman seal for the Moon or Venus. Like the Ethiopian protective scrolls, the images contain magical symbols *charaktêres*. I will gradually add other seals for the remaining circular diagrams.

  
  Also, absolutely fascinating, but I do wonder how you then explain the overtly northern European dress of Gemini for example...  I'm reminded of Lisa's 3 rules....
  
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  It is necessary not to take these previous statements. VM is a masterful manipulation of visual representation. Here are some examples. A brimmed hat and a halo. Or the overturned barrels and the clothes of the characters. In the picture you call the Gemini, everything is different, as you will soon see.
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