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• RE: Raymundi Lulli und Folio 67v

  JoJo_Jost > Yesterday, 10:09 PM

  I searched for a line in which these ‘translated’ words appear several times and used them in the verb form.
  
  Original Eva: f106v.38: okcheody.qokeey.otchey.qokeey.qokeedal.qokchkeey.qol.rody.raiin.oty
  
  With Translations: okcheody(= exsiccatio/ drying out).qokeey(= solutio=dissolve).otchey(= ?).qokeey(= solutio dissolve).qokeedal(= ?).qokchkeey(= a Variant of dissolve).qol(= ?).rody(= ?).raiin(= ?+wasser).oty(= induratio / hardening)
  
  English: drying out [and] dissolve, otchey, dissolve qokeedal.qokchkeey (maybe a Variants of dissolve) qol(= ?).rody(= ?).raiin(= ?evtl. Remove water) hardening
  
  
  Sounds like instructions for a manufacturing process – interpreted:
  
  first dry (the plant), then dissolve in f.e. vinegar, then dissolve in f.e. oil [...] remove water and harden.
  
  Would fit into a recipe section.

• RE: Raymundi Lulli und Folio 67v

  RadioFM > Today, 03:07 AM

  For your consideration, f75r:
  
  qokedy dy c'heety qokedy qokeedy qokechdy lol
  qokeedy qokeedy qokedy qokedy qokeedy ldy
  yc'hedy qokeedy qokeedy olkeedy otey koldy

• RE: Raymundi Lulli und Folio 67v

  JoJo_Jost > Today, 07:01 AM

  (Today, 03:07 AM)RadioFM Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.For your consideration, f75r:
  
  
  
  qokedy dy c'heety qokedy qokeedy qokechdy lol
  
  qokeedy qokeedy qokedy qokedy qokeedy ldy
  
  yc'hedy qokeedy qokeedy olkeedy otey koldy

  
  Yes, that's a quite funny passage, i know it. But I don't have a translation of the entire text! But we can run through it if you like. But it is NOT a serious translation - with a lot of hypothese. Just for fun: 
  
  
  Hypothtesis:
  
  qoke word stem = dissolve
  
  qokedy: imperativ: dissolve!
  
  The word quokeedy is longer, and the doubling of the e indicates that it is softer.
  
  qokeedy =  macera! (soak) / lixivia! (leach) / dilue! (dilute)
  
  qokechedy =  could then be something like, take an excerpt from the solution
  
  qokedy c'heety qokedy qokeedy qokechdy lol
  qokedy(= dissolve).c'heety(= ? maybe wait).qokedy(= dissolve) qokeedy(= soak).qokechdy(= exerpt).lol(= lough out loud ?)
  
  dissolve wait dissolve again, soak it, exerpt, and then 
  
  So that would be a kind of step-by-step guide to how to process something.
  
  Such crazy sequences could then make sense – it describes a very precise work process, but as I said, that is purely hypothetical.
  
  PS. However, I would like to point out that my opinion here on the board is that such duplications are an indication that someone who copied the text was unsure of what it said and simply wrote several versions of the same text one after the other. And this passage is a good example of that....
  
  These lines also show how difficult it was to decipher the underlying text; here there are even two variants of entire lines.

• RE: Raymundi Lulli und Folio 67v

  JoJo_Jost > Today, 09:11 AM

  I have analysed the passage here once again to prove conclusively that there are only three versions of one line:
  
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• RE: Raymundi Lulli und Folio 67v

  PrixyPurple > 3 hours ago

  Hi,
  I was wondering, were did you get the image of the upper corner of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. that you posted in this thread? 
  
  thanks

• RE: Raymundi Lulli und Folio 67v

  JoJo_Jost > 1 hour ago

  (3 hours ago)PrixyPurple Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi,
  I was wondering, were did you get the image of the upper corner of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. that you posted in this thread? 
  
  thanks

  
  It is one of the typical pages of the Voynich manuscripts, edited by me. The lines have been traced according to the original.
  
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