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(20-05-2025, 06:16 PM)davidd wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.possibly: test grammar findings against other 15th c texts in known languages.
In my opinion, it would be really useful to take your first steps on a well-known text from the same period.
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(20-05-2025, 09:37 PM)Ruby Novacna wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (20-05-2025, 06:16 PM)davidd wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.possibly: test grammar findings against other 15th c texts in known languages.
In my opinion, it would be really useful to take your first steps on a well-known text from the same period. Do you have some suggestions, i need to have a flat text file, or something where i can easily copy paste the whole text to a simple textfile
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Personally, I would first try something as simple as 10k words from King James Bible. The first thing is checking that the method works on a straightforward text.
Later, you can move to one of the Chaucer manuscripts transcribed here:
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(20-05-2025, 10:24 PM)MarcoP wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Personally, I would first try something as simple as 10k words from King James Bible. The first thing is checking that the method works on a straightforward text.
Later, you can move to one of the Chaucer manuscripts transcribed here:
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Thanks, I will start with genesis You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
I made it show members when you hover over a group . Sadly it doesnt work on the forum page for me, but if you right click -> open image in new tab , you can see the members when hovering
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first try on the king james genesis
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not perfect but decent
Quote:members: ['they', 'he', 'she', 'levi', 'afterward', 'whatsoever', 'goeth', 'offered', 'pursued', 'judah', 'reuben', 'lot', 'onan', 'laid'
, 'korah', 'trade', 'cain', 'pharaoh', 'joseph', 'laban', 'abimelech', 'jacob', 'isaac', 'leah', 'abraham', 'israel', 'god', 'noah', 'abram', 'rebekah', 'there', 'it', 'adam', 'esau', 'sarai', 'rachel', 'sarah', 'shelah', 'multiply', 'cainan', 'mahalaleel', 'jared', 'enos', 'methuselah', 'eber', 'serug', 'reu', 'arphaxad', 'salah', 'peleg', 'lamech', 'enoch', 'terah', 'benjamin', 'i', 'we', 'ye', 'here', 'neither', 'zebulun', 'who', 'what', 'why', 'thou', 'whither', 'how', 'arise', 'year', 'zerah', 'adah', 'shechem', 'issachar', 'gomorrah', 'truly', 'naphtali', 'japheth', 'menservants', 'spotted', 'rest', 'wept', 'therefore', 'milcah', 'begat', 'lo', 'kissed', 'tamar', 'hagar']
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top3: he i it
groupname: he
lesser likely following : the 1.33% instead of 14.54%
more likely following : and 53.88% instead of 14.34%
lesser likely followed by : lord 1.17% instead of 13.90%
more likely followed by : said 55.69% instead of 11.33%
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It does look promising. I particularly like that it recognizes the accusative and nominative cases (already better than what Voynich solvers do). The single-word-class for "grew" is interesting, probably worth investigating.
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the output of the software is now a lot improved, it produces html and svg files.
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(26-05-2025, 08:59 PM)davidd wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.the output of the software is now a lot improved, it produces html and svg files.
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Incredibly impressive, David. I hope to see your code some day.
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Hi Davidd,
your results look very readable now, well done! I would only suggest that you sort the members by decreasing frequency, so that the first 3 are the same words as the node labels in the graphs.
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(27-05-2025, 09:52 AM)MarcoP wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi Davidd,
your results look very readable now, well done! I would only suggest that you sort the members by decreasing frequency, so that the first 3 are the same words as the node labels in the graphs.
feature added, new runs
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Edit, i didnt do it in the tooltips when hovering over the picture yet, only in the overview below the picture. will add it to the tooltip also
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