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• RE: Lingua Volgare Shorthand

  Ruby Novacna > 02-03-2025, 03:24 PM

  (02-03-2025, 03:06 PM)ginocaspari Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.A distinctly different transcription from both EVA and V101 is an integral part of our solution. It is of course possible to map them onto each other. 

  
  Perfect! Where can we see it?

• RE: Lingua Volgare Shorthand

  MarcoP > 02-03-2025, 03:44 PM

  Quote:We are looking for specialists in lingua volgare shorthand to replicate our solution and mitigate our confirmation bias.

  
  I am curious about lingua volgare shorthand. Could you please link a couple of scanned manuscripts, so I can have a look?

• RE: Lingua Volgare Shorthand

  RobGea > 02-03-2025, 04:36 PM

  So EVA-daiin would transcribe to a shorthand sequence of  "TMO", ? Or am i doing it wrong.

• RE: Lingua Volgare Shorthand

  ginocaspari > 02-03-2025, 04:50 PM

  (02-03-2025, 04:36 PM)RobGea Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So EVA-daiin  would transcribe to a shorthand sequence of  "TMO", ? Or am i doing it wrong.

  
  This is correct. We suggest that TMO when occurring as an isolated word likely stands for T(ene)MO (we have). TMO is also the first word in our vocabulary list. Often when TMO appears at the end of a word it indicates that the word is a verb conjugated in the first person plural. E.g. piot(a)mo (from piotare, to cover with sods). We read a large part of the herbal section as instructions in the first person plural.

• RE: Lingua Volgare Shorthand

  BessAgritianin > 02-03-2025, 04:52 PM

  ginocaspari, can you explain with several words what is the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. about it ?
  
  Or what plant is f2r, f17r?
  Thank You in advance!

• RE: Lingua Volgare Shorthand

  ginocaspari > 02-03-2025, 04:58 PM

  (02-03-2025, 01:54 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (02-03-2025, 01:33 PM)Rafal Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Were you able to read some longer passages or were it words and maybe short sentences? Maybe you could share some examples here?
  If you have some longer texts, are they grammatical?

  
  See the Seven Criteria by C. Bowern document p. 3-9. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
  
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  Was I the first to download it? Probably not, several other counters are still displaying 0 downloads for documents that I have downloaded.

  
  You were certainly one of the first ones to download it. The counter on the Open Science Foundation website does not seem to be very reliable.

• RE: Lingua Volgare Shorthand

  ginocaspari > 02-03-2025, 05:06 PM

  (02-03-2025, 03:24 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (02-03-2025, 03:06 PM)ginocaspari Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.A distinctly different transcription from both EVA and V101 is an integral part of our solution. It is of course possible to map them onto each other. 

  
  Perfect! Where can we see it?

  
  Kindly refer to Table 1 in our main article: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

• RE: Lingua Volgare Shorthand

  Ruby Novacna > 02-03-2025, 05:21 PM

  (02-03-2025, 05:06 PM)ginocaspari Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Kindly refer to Table 1 in our main article: 

  
  I am not talking about your alphabet, but about the transcription/transliteration of the entire manuscript. Where can we consult it?

• RE: Lingua Volgare Shorthand

  RobGea > 02-03-2025, 05:41 PM

  @Ruby, just make one, i am part way through now.
  
  @ginocaspari, thanks for your reply. Sorry, my bad. i did not check the vocab for it ,
  
  Overall , so far anyway, i like it, the transcribed text still looks a bit repetitive but could be a style thing
  and adding in more shorthand transcriptions and further decoings would probably reduce that.
  
  I like the voynich glyph contractions also the fact that 5 of your glyph meanings match EVA is intriguing.
  
  Unfortunately my Italian and shorthand skills are nonexistent, so i cant help.
  
  Good job, nice work.

• RE: Lingua Volgare Shorthand

  Ruby Novacna > 02-03-2025, 06:15 PM

  (02-03-2025, 05:41 PM)RobGea Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@Ruby, just make one, i am part way through now.

  
  You are suggesting that I transcribe the manuscript in place of our authors? That seems slightly unrealistic to me.
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