Aga Tentakulus > 01-12-2021, 12:54 AM
Koen G > 01-12-2021, 01:44 AM
(01-12-2021, 12:50 AM)lurker Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Each pair of recto and verso pages belong to the same folio. Therefore it would be a surprise if recto and verso groups groups would behave differently.
pfeaster > 01-12-2021, 02:02 AM
(01-12-2021, 12:50 AM)lurker Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Each pair of recto and verso pages belong to the same folio. Therefore it would be a surprise if recto and verso groups groups would behave differently.
Instead I suggest to divide for scribe 1 into Botanical/Pharmaceutical folios and for scribe 2 into Botanical/Biological folios.
pfeaster > 01-12-2021, 03:04 PM
(01-12-2021, 12:08 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Cool! Thanks for checking this so quickly. 3, 2, 3, 2? (if this is incorrect it is because I am reading incorrectly, not because the data is inconclusive).
MarcoP > 01-12-2021, 04:11 PM
pfeaster > 01-12-2021, 05:28 PM
(01-12-2021, 04:11 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I was wondering if single-scribe corpora are large enough for detailed word-oriented analysis. For instance (unless I am miscounting), each of Scribe2 and Scribe3 wrote about 150 occurrences of daiin. This means that, when considering recto and verso separately, each cell in a 10x10 grid averagely represents less than one occurrence on average.
RenegadeHealer > 01-12-2021, 09:07 PM
(01-12-2021, 03:04 PM)pfeaster Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Here are some modest hypotheses I'd like to put forward for critique, based on the foregoing:
1. If the opposite of "flat" is "bumpy," then the text of the VM is fundamentally bumpy, not just superficially bumpy.
2. Its bumpiness isn't limited to beginnings of paragraphs or to beginnings or ends of lines (although it especially affects those places) but extends throughout the whole body of the text.
3. Its bumpiness isn't limited to nonce similarities among nearby vords (basic self-citation) but constrains the text by position according to consistent patterns.
4. Its bumpiness affects the text structure thoroughly enough to preclude any method of text generation (whether natural-language plaintext, cipher, invented language, stochastic hoax, or "other") that is fundamentally flat with only minor tweaks made to the result.
Davidsch > 02-12-2021, 04:06 PM
(28-11-2021, 10:38 PM)pfeaster Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(28-11-2021, 08:13 PM)Davidsch Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Very interesting images, but what does the RGB / brightness exactly show in these images, could your please explain.
If, for example Daiin, the brightness shows the left position, the image can not be correct because daiin does not have preferred position at the beginning of lines.
Brightness corresponds to greater prevalence in a given position.
...<snip>
Here are new grayscale images for [daiin] in Currier A and B, side by side.
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It's the image for Currier B that shows a bright peak at the left of lines and the vertical center of paragraphs. If I'm reading my spreadsheets correctly, in Currier B, about 30% of tokens of [daiin] are the first vord in a line; about 8.5% are the last vord in a line; and about 61.5% fall somewhere in the middle of the line. In all of Currier B, by contrast, about 11.5% of vords are first or last in their lines, while about 77% fall somewhere in the middle. So [daiin] does seem significantly overrepresented in the first line position in Currier B. The image suggests that this overrepresentation is also limited to the vertical center of the paragraph.
I haven't double-checked that, but if it's true, then the anomaly would be even stronger than the line-position statistics would suggest by themselves.
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pfeaster > 03-12-2021, 03:45 PM
(02-12-2021, 04:06 PM)Davidsch Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.could you find a way to merge these with the following: horizontal line size in amount of words and/or vertical line size in amount of words ?
pfeaster > 08-12-2021, 03:02 PM
(02-12-2021, 04:06 PM)Davidsch Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.could you find a way to merge these with the following: horizontal line size in amount of words and/or vertical line size in amount of words ?