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Although trying the mirror was probably the first step for many of us on our Voynich exploration path, I like the approach. And fig. 12a is indeed interesting.
"The mysteries of life becoming clearer
Behind the mirror"
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The authors' conclusion is that the best option for decoding the manuscript is to identify meaningful words and sentences.
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06-09-2020, 07:48 PM
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Yes, although they conclude that it's unlikely that the VMS was created using mirrors and lenses, I like the very idea of their approach - not stumbling over language mappings again & again.
I believe there's something damned simple in there, although perhaps quite elaborate, but not difficult in concept. We're just walking orthogonal to that.
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I hope I don't hijack the thread by posting this, but it reminded me a bit of this post on the Voynich Subreddit: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
I think this approach to simulate the effects of an iceland spar is actually pretty clever.
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It's a pretty fun article.
I like seeing creative approaches. Obviously some will not yield anything directly relevant, but out of this kind of experimentation, you can sometimes trigger new ideas, new ways of attacking a problem.
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06-09-2020, 09:15 PM
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Joben, I don't know if I kept the experiments (I used Photoshop), but I tried a few things years ago. I don't think I tried doubling the text as in the example you posted (which means I didn't try enough combinations), but I did try combining some of the different tokens and different glyphs upside-down to right-side-up or mirrored and overlaid to see if it yielded anything interesting.
With the VMS I always get the feeling something is missing, but maybe it's there and just needs to be put together in the right way.
I'll look around my files and see if I kept any of it. Sometimes I delete things so that I won't get too hung up on one way of looking at things.
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Looking through my files, I just realized why I stopped manipulating the text like this. I started making the shapes into little animals (it's quite easy to get little dog-like shapes by flipping tokens around and joining them). My brain always wants to turn them into objects.
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(06-09-2020, 09:15 PM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Joben, I don't know if I kept the experiments (I used Photoshop), but I tried a few things years ago. I don't think I tried doubling the text as in the example you posted (which means I didn't try enough combinations), but I did try combining some of the different tokens and different glyphs upside-down to right-side-up or mirrored and overlaid to see if it yielded anything interesting.
With the VMS I always get the feeling something is missing, but maybe it's there and just needs to be put together in the right way.
I'll look around my files and see if I kept any of it. Sometimes I delete things so that I won't get too hung up on one way of looking at things.
Experimenting with optical effects that could have been used at the time of the VMs seems like a reasonable thing to do imo. So many research hours has been spent attacking the manuscript from other angles without bearing much fruit, so why not, right?
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I agree. Why not try. Maybe it's a very simple coding system based on a less-obvious process.
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I wonder how a mirror could change the statistical issues we face though. Entropy problems don't go away when mirrored, right?
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