ReneZ > 16-05-2019, 09:11 PM
-JKP- > 16-05-2019, 09:13 PM
Quote:JKP: Again, I think you miss my point. The question I am concerned with is not the function of a symbol, but rather what a symbol looks like visually. From my point of view the question I am interested in this context is if the Voynich "8" is visually speaking an "8", not what the function of the symbol "8" has.
If you take the context of the diplomatic ciphers that I am interested in then in general the symbols meanings don't correspond to external meanings, so my own interests are in visual identification.
Quote: Mark Knowles: ...though I think one can have some degree of confidence that an "8" is an "8"...
Mark Knowles > 16-05-2019, 09:35 PM
(16-05-2019, 09:11 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Mark, most definitely YOU are the one missing the point.
The d shape in the Voynich MS looks quite like how the characters d and s are written in many medieval manuscripts.
That is: visually.
Just look at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of the MS for examples.
-JKP- > 16-05-2019, 09:40 PM
Quote:Mark Knowles wrote: "I am focusing on how the shapes look visually independent of where else we see the shape."
ReneZ > 16-05-2019, 09:40 PM
Mark Knowles > 16-05-2019, 09:43 PM
(16-05-2019, 09:13 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Quote:JKP: Again, I think you miss my point. The question I am concerned with is not the function of a symbol, but rather what a symbol looks like visually. From my point of view the question I am interested in this context is if the Voynich "8" is visually speaking an "8", not what the function of the symbol "8" has.
If you take the context of the diplomatic ciphers that I am interested in then in general the symbols meanings don't correspond to external meanings, so my own interests are in visual identification.
Quote: Mark Knowles: ...though I think one can have some degree of confidence that an "8" is an "8"...
Mark Knowles > 16-05-2019, 09:54 PM
(16-05-2019, 09:40 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-05-2019, 09:35 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I am trying to establish in this thread what the shape looks like, not whether there are characters corresponding to other letters in other manuscripts that resemble that character.
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Mark Knowles > 16-05-2019, 09:58 PM
Mark Knowles > 16-05-2019, 10:17 PM
ReneZ > 16-05-2019, 10:30 PM