Mark Knowles > 16-05-2019, 11:29 AM
Mark Knowles > 16-05-2019, 11:41 AM
(16-05-2019, 08:44 AM)Helmut Winkler Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Mark,
the 8 could be an s as well as a d as well as a an 8. The problem with the Vscript is that it is, unlike a book script, very variable, it is the script of an individual, that is why some people think there were different scribes at work. I think thw way to a soluruin would be to find out what the scribe meant by bis abbreviations
Helmut Winkler > 16-05-2019, 04:28 PM
(16-05-2019, 11:41 AM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-05-2019, 08:44 AM)Helmut Winkler Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Mark,
the 8 could be an s as well as a d as well as a an 8. The problem with the Vscript is that it is, unlike a book script, very variable, it is the script of an individual, that is why some people think there were different scribes at work. I think thw way to a soluruin would be to find out what the scribe meant by bis abbreviations
Helmut: Your point is good one I think. You are right we can't say for certain what shapes any of the Voynich symbols correspond to, though I think one can have some degree of confidence that an "8" is an "8". The fact is, it seems to me, that we can truly say very little about the Voynich with certainty. Nevertheless, I am operating on the basis that we can have some degree of confidence in what I see as reasonable inferences.
Mark Knowles > 16-05-2019, 05:08 PM
(16-05-2019, 04:28 PM)Helmut Winkler Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-05-2019, 11:41 AM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-05-2019, 08:44 AM)Helmut Winkler Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Mark,
the 8 could be an s as well as a d as well as a an 8. The problem with the Vscript is that it is, unlike a book script, very variable, it is the script of an individual, that is why some people think there were different scribes at work. I think thw way to a soluruin would be to find out what the scribe meant by bis abbreviations
Helmut: Your point is good one I think. You are right we can't say for certain what shapes any of the Voynich symbols correspond to, though I think one can have some degree of confidence that an "8" is an "8". The fact is, it seems to me, that we can truly say very little about the Voynich with certainty. Nevertheless, I am operating on the basis that we can have some degree of confidence in what I see as reasonable inferences.
Well, to answer the question you ask: I feel quite sure that the gallows 4 is not a 4
Helmut Winkler > 16-05-2019, 05:21 PM
Mark Knowles > 16-05-2019, 06:08 PM
(16-05-2019, 05:21 PM)Helmut Winkler Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.That is interesting, why do you think that?
Helmut Winkler > 16-05-2019, 06:46 PM
(16-05-2019, 06:08 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-05-2019, 05:21 PM)Helmut Winkler Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.That is interesting, why do you think that?
Because it does not look the leeast like a medieval 4, I mean, look at the published exxamples andd the 4's in the ms.
Mark Knowles > 16-05-2019, 07:29 PM
(16-05-2019, 06:46 PM)Helmut Winkler Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-05-2019, 06:08 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-05-2019, 05:21 PM)Helmut Winkler Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.That is interesting, why do you think that?
Because it does not look the leeast like a medieval 4, I mean, look at the published exxamples andd the 4's in the ms.
Well it looks like the medieval 4's that I have seen and it looks like the 4's in the manuscript. I think you may be misunderstanding what I am saying. I am refering to the left side of the gallows characters that have a loop on that side. Such as the 't' character. If I understand Rene and JKP correctly they are both inclined to the view that there is a similarity, not that they are necessarily correct.
-JKP- > 16-05-2019, 08:47 PM
(16-05-2019, 11:41 AM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
Helmut: Your point is good one I think. You are right we can't say for certain what shapes any of the Voynich symbols correspond to, though I think one can have some degree of confidence that an "8" is an "8"...
Mark Knowles > 16-05-2019, 08:55 PM