Davidsch > 10-02-2019, 04:47 PM
Antonio García Jiménez > 22-02-2019, 06:06 PM
-JKP- > 22-02-2019, 10:16 PM
(22-02-2019, 06:06 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
God has marked all the creation with signatures. The medicinal herbs are marked. Its shapes (roots, leaves, flowers) resemble human organs, parts of the body which are healed by them. Maybe something of this philosophy is reflected in the herbs of the Voynich and they are part of the alchemical tradition They look like fantastic herbs but they don't need an explanatory text, only to link them with its correspondent stars.
Antonio García Jiménez > 27-02-2019, 05:27 PM
-JKP- > 27-02-2019, 11:36 PM
(27-02-2019, 05:27 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think I've found the origin of two symbols of the Voynich script in some volvelles from the same time of the VMS, what reinforces the hypothesis of an astronomical code.
Is about the symbols EVA-d and EVA-l. They are actually numbers as their shape indicates. The number 8 and the number 4 in its primitive Arabic form. You can see these numbers in at least three wheel charts on the following digitalized manuscripts:
MS Asmole 370 The Kalendarium of Nicholas of Lynn
MS 454 Lambeth Palace Library (looking for volvelle hashtag on Twitter)
BL Sloane 4100, recto
In all three volvelles, the numbers 8 and 4 appear in the inner circle, up and down, four times, separated by a cross in the Zodiac signs Geminis-Cancer on the one hand and Sagitarius-Capricornius for the other. The numbers obviously are the hours of ligth: 8 plus 8 in the day of Summer signs versus 4 plus 4 at night, and 4 plus 4 in the day of Winter signs versus 8 plus 8 during the night.
In Aries and Libra you can see 6 plus 6 because there are the same hours of light in day and night.
I think the Voynich uses only the symbols 8 and 4 and no the others (5, 6 and 7) because they aren't necessary. Once fixed the tropical signs (Cancer and Capricornius) you can place the celestial objects. What matters in the Voynich it's not the hours of light but the position of the stars in the sphere.
Antonio García Jiménez > 03-03-2019, 04:02 PM
Antonio García Jiménez > 11-03-2019, 05:35 PM
bi3mw > 11-03-2019, 06:24 PM
(11-03-2019, 05:35 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
The volvelles are appropiate tools. They are analog computers of the XV century and they can explain how the script was generated.
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Common_Man > 11-03-2019, 06:44 PM
(11-03-2019, 05:35 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.We all know that in the VMS there are glyphs that always or almost always go to the beginning, others in the middle and others at the end of a 'word' or string.
-JKP- > 11-03-2019, 07:32 PM
(11-03-2019, 06:44 PM)Common_Man Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(11-03-2019, 05:35 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.We all know that in the VMS there are glyphs that always or almost always go to the beginning, others in the middle and others at the end of a 'word' or string.
Why can't they be the result of some kind of phenomenon going on in the plain text? Something like a poem with a different kind of rhyme scheme where the neighboring words sound like each other while still conveying meaning? A poem could also have characteristics like LAAFU..
I don't have anything to back this hypothesis up (yet), but I see VMS now as a product of (nomadic?) people trying to preserve their knowledge as poems with mnemonic images.