stellar > 27-11-2016, 07:41 PM
(27-11-2016, 07:27 PM)ThomasCoon Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi Stellar,
Is this the process you are using?
1) Look at what letters each Vord has (ex. #10 = sory)
2) Convert the Voynichese letters to Latin letters using the "Pythagorean Voynich Gematria" charts) (sory --> xoyi)
3) Calculate the Gematria value of the Latin-letter word (ex. xoyi = 438)
4) Find another English word with the exact same Gematria value (ex. "turn" in Gematria also equals 438)
Did I misstate anything?
Witch Mountain > 27-11-2016, 10:30 PM
stellar > 27-11-2016, 10:41 PM
(27-11-2016, 10:30 PM)Witch Mountain Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Dear stellar, I have one question: do you believe that "for no Gods lie belief belief snake desire our meat" is truly a phrase that Dee wanted to inscribe? I'm not saying I believe it or disbelieve it - I just wanted to know your thoughts.
Witch Mountain > 28-11-2016, 11:09 PM
(27-11-2016, 10:41 PM)stellar Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(27-11-2016, 10:30 PM)Witch Mountain Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Dear stellar, I have one question: do you believe that "for no Gods lie belief belief snake desire our meat" is truly a phrase that Dee wanted to inscribe? I'm not saying I believe it or disbelieve it - I just wanted to know your thoughts.
I no longer believe Dee created this VMS. I don't want to say at the moment who I think it was at the moment.
stellar > 28-11-2016, 11:25 PM
(28-11-2016, 11:09 PM)Witch Mountain Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(27-11-2016, 10:41 PM)stellar Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(27-11-2016, 10:30 PM)Witch Mountain Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Dear stellar, I have one question: do you believe that "for no Gods lie belief belief snake desire our meat" is truly a phrase that Dee wanted to inscribe? I'm not saying I believe it or disbelieve it - I just wanted to know your thoughts.
I no longer believe Dee created this VMS. I don't want to say at the moment who I think it was at the moment.
Thank you dear Stellar.
I will ask a different question then: do you think anyone (whether Dee or not) would want to write the phrase "for no Gods lie belief belief snake desire our meat", or does it strike you as odd / improbable?
stellar > 28-11-2016, 11:28 PM
ThomasCoon > 28-11-2016, 11:38 PM
stellar > 29-11-2016, 01:04 AM
(28-11-2016, 11:38 PM)ThomasCoon Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi Stellar,As you know this is perhaps the toughest cipher ever to crack. Thomas and anyone else if you have a belief system and as you know there is good and bad in this world; first off I wish to finally report the Author of this book The VMS and believe me I was confused about Dee. John Dee was not involved and I thank all of you for pounding that into my mind and also your constant critique for it made me go deeper and develop this cipher key. Satan, wrote this and I know its shocking, but when Christ ascended into heaven Lucifer was cast out to be named Satan. He has walked the earth ever since until his judgement.
Just a question by a truly curious person. Let's start with your You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. image and with the word "xoyi" (your 10th word), which equals 438 in Gematria and could therefore be a code for "turn", which also has a gematria value of 438. At this point a few questions arise:
1) Wouldn't it be more normal for the phrase to say "Now I Lucifer say to Eve, 'I am God'" instead of "Now I Lucifer turn Eve I am God"? Do you think that is fudging the Voynichese, and if not, why would "I Lucifer turn Eve I am God" be the first choice of phrasing instead of "I Lucifer say to Eve I am God"
2) Out of curiosity, why do you think the two words "Now I" are represented as one word in Voynichese - why do you think the coder would do that? Wouldn't it be more logical (and much easier) if every encoded word became only one plaintext word?
3) There are exactly 98 word choices (I counted) for the Gematria value 438. It can equal "turn", but it can also equal "stone", "goddess", "pulse", "sexy", "goodbye", "common", "episode" and even "Telecom". There are probably about 100 choices for every other word in this paragraph also. Do you believe that is a viable coding system - where you have to go through 100 different choices for every single word that you write? Even the word "the" in Gematria - value of 198 - could be 99 other words. I am just genuinely curious in asking this.
Thanks Stellar! Kudos as always for the work.
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"Lucifer" means "Light-Bringer" or "Day Star." Ezekiel calls him "the anointed cherub who covers," which means he was one of the chief angels whose wings covered God's throne in heaven. He is specifically shown to be a created being, possibly the most beautiful, wise, and perfect of God's creations.
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Anonymous > 29-11-2016, 01:32 AM
(20-11-2016, 11:39 AM)farmerjohn Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.stellar, the plant drawn on this page is savory. Take a look at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. or google "savory". The word "savory" itself appears in text as ydy (conilis)
stellar > 29-11-2016, 01:59 AM