New analysis of f116v, Central Bavarian dialect
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(23-06-2026, 02:50 PM)monisusa wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi, after years of research there are more than guesses. I discussed the text with pharmacists to check the ingredients and logical sequence. My local pharmacist remembered to have learned the expression "mana in vitra" at university. Moreover I also discussed it with experts of German studies at University of Vienna, Salzburg and Innsbruck. The last sentence has a proper syntax. 
And please explain: what exactly is it you consider "nonsense" ? Do you refer to the ingredients, the reading of the gothic cursive, the dialectal spelling? These spellings are exceptional just as the Voynich-Manuscript is exceptional. Nevertheless, there are in fact numerous manuscripts in Bavarian language but this is indeed special. However, it is just a brief note, not a manuscript.
Everday texts as e.g. housebooks were written in vernacular. Medical expressions in Latin. Last but not not least - I understand the language. Kind regards Monika

If you cannot show these words and spellings in contemporary manuscripts or documents (housebooks will do), they are essentially your guesses. Educated guesses, quite possibly, but still unproven. We cannot deduce if any of these words were actually spelled this way in the XV century without a clear proof.

As for the nonsense - your proposed reading doesn't look coherent to me, way too abbreviated with no reason at all. There is plenty of space on the page and the scribe had time to write in small neat letters and add embellishments like the dots over o, so probably not in a hurry either.

Hello, the request for parallels is understandable. However, this recipe appears to be unique (as the whole codex is). My interpretation is not based on comparisons but on reproducing the recipe and discussing it with pharmacists. Have you reproduced the recipe yourself? Of course, we do not know how people spoke 600 years ago. Many medieval words have disappeared but some survived in local dialects until the present day. Furthermore, there is some evidence that he was not a native speaker and probably did not have an university education.
Kind regards, Monika
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RE: New analysis of f116v, Central Bavarian dialect - by monisusa - 27-06-2026, 06:23 AM

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