Tested K&A at scale, found something, need your help
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(09-04-2026, 02:58 PM)oshfdk wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi and welcome!

I'm not sure I agree that the findings as listed are hard to dismiss as artifacts. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but:

(09-04-2026, 02:25 PM)CorwinFr wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.On f103r, the word "coque" (cook) appears 17 times in 5 conjugated forms: coque, coquas, coquere, coquendo, coquant. A random mapping does not produce a Latin morphological paradigm.

This is not a random mapping, as far as I understand, this is some mapping optimized using some Latin corpus or dictionary, which would contain different word forms.

(09-04-2026, 02:25 PM)CorwinFr wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.On f33r, the pipeline decodes INELIODE. The illustration on the same page shows an Asteraceae. The pipeline cannot see the illustration. Two independent channels pointing to Inula helenium.

This can easily be a coincidence. Among some 50000 words one matches one of hundreds of images.

(09-04-2026, 02:25 PM)CorwinFr wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The astronomical pages (f67r) decode to pharmaceutical vocabulary: spikenard, cinnamon, celery, wine. Nobody expected recipes hidden in star diagrams.

In other words, some vocabulary not related to the images. Again, likely a coincidence.

(09-04-2026, 02:25 PM)CorwinFr wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Never found 5 consecutive words in a known text.

This is important, because this is a clear indicator that the mapping is likely spurious.

The pipeline produces a real signal above random (+67 percentage points). Words of 4-5 letters like aquam, coque, hiera, aloes, recipe validate strongly and cannot be explained by chance.

But the "89%" is misleading. 75% of our corpus is short words (<5 chars) that match Latin trivially. At 6+ characters, validation drops to 28%. At 7+, to 17%.

Zero 5-word sequences found in any medieval corpus. Shuffling word order changes almost nothing. We have a pharmaceutical vocabulary, not Latin sentences.

The honest picture: ~20 recurring pharmaceutical terms show a genuine signal. Everything else is noise or trivially short matches. Whether those 20 terms reflect real encoded Latin or a bias in the K&A mapping is the open question.
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RE: Tested K&A at scale, found something, need your help - by CorwinFr - 09-04-2026, 03:13 PM

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