08-03-2026, 08:19 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-03-2026, 08:39 PM by Loose_Spell_9313.)
(08-03-2026, 07:22 PM)eggyk wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I've tried lots of different orientations, but there is not obvious lining up of features between the both (folds, creases, marks etc). You can always make 1 or 2 things line up, no matter the orientation, but never everything.
I would have to argue that it's still more than nothing though, no? Even with variations, bottom right staining is consistent. Also, you have adjusted the right margins such that they are not congruent. If the argument was that the papers don't align, surely those misalignment would be more likely to be on the left hand side, not the page end I think- particularly because they both have some length to them.
But in your variation, the center crease more perfectly aligns with the right border of the board on 'Map with Ship' and the superficial vertical lines on the right hand side also align more closely in addition to the staining still matching.
So while our scales may vary, they both arguably indicate consistencies. I'm not trying to reach, I am simply absorbing what you're showing and showing how I feel it still isn't contradictory evidence.
Quote:Why not assume one 24 hour cycle, with each segment representing 2 hours? If you assume a 12 hour system, are you assuming an area/time/date that has the moon dissapear for 3 hours per day, and then a night lasting 3 hours?
Simply because there is solar and lunar representation, 12 points, the full stop, and the fact that clocks appear around this time as well. I feel this allows for the possibility that that's what we're seeing. It was the only interpretation I've seen so far that produces any real world equivalent. It's not like we don't have evidence of earlier solar/lunar encodings in history either- in fact, this would be maybe one of the latest.
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Quote:If you are doing this, you must assume that it begins from sunrise and goes clockwise. That means the first three hours of daylight must have no moon (3am-6am), then the moon is visible for 9 hours (6am-3pm), after that the moon becomes invisible for 3 hours (3pm-6pm), then becomes visible again for 9 hours (6pm-3am).
If you assume it begins at sunset, the moon is visible at all times other than 12pm-3pm, and the sun is visible at all times other than 12am-3am.
If you assume a 24 hour system beginning at sunrise at 4am, the sun would always be visible and the moon would be visible for 18 hours per day (only during the day, not at night)
If you assume a 24 hour system beginning at sunset at 10pm, you would have he moon visible 24 hours a day, and a night time period of around 10pm-4am.
Does somewhere in the arctic, or anywhere else, match any of these patterns?
While not an exact match, although a closer one may found by someone more refined in geo-positioning, there is in fact a close match with:
Alaska (Solstice): In Anchorage, the sun rises around 4:20 a.m. and sets at 11:42 p.m
Russia (summer Solstice): Moscow: Sunrise is roughly around 3:45 AM, and sunset is around 9:15 PM (approx. 17 hours, 30 minutes of daylight).
Norway (summer Solstice): Southern Norway (e.g., Oslo)- Extremely long days with nearly 20 hours of daylight; sunrise is around 03:50–04:00, and sunset is around 22:40–23:00.
The hours I have proposed fall within this range all winter for all the listed region-Solstice was just the note. Excluding months where there is no night, or day, this method of analysis is quantifiable.
I'm sorry- I'm not going to try and view it as a 24 hour cycle because it is removed from my argument and trying to provide evidence for something unrelated is ineffective.

