01-03-2026, 12:29 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-03-2026, 12:31 AM by Jorge_Stolfi.)
(01-03-2026, 12:08 AM)ReneZ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes, this is largely recognisable.
Thanks!
However it seems that line (F) of that revised version not quite correct after all. In the Chinese version, the material for that sub-entry is 屎白 which is literally "excrement white" but must mean "white part of the bird's droppings". It seems that the Thai translation "khi3 kai2 khao5" is a bad literal translation of 屎白 that means "white droppings", which is not the actual meaning. Prompted, Google AI and ChatGPT admitted the probem and said that to get the proper meaning it should have been "khi3 kai2 suan khao5".
Does that make sense?
Quote:The numbers are confusing and make it hard to guess. Thai tones are numbered 1-4 (with no number for 'neutral'), where the assignments are swapped w.r.t. Mandarin (1,3 -> 3,1 and 2,4 -> 4,2).
hua5 (=head) would be rising = 4th tone.
I can ask the lalamos to change the tone marking system. The numbers 1-5 were their initial umprompted choice. I asked for a default tone to be unmarked, to lighten the text, and they chose their tone 1. Is there a name for your marking system?
Quote:Thai has many unseparable polysyllabic word. Some seem to appear here but have simply been split, e.g. bam rung = bamrung, mong khon = mongkhon . Both words fit very well in this type of text.
I see. I split the syllables for the same reason that I omitted all punctuation: to hopefully make it easier to compare this "Thai" text to the VMS text, and (in case Voynichese is indeed Thai) maybe identify additional cribs. (Of course there would have been many changes to the language, etc.)
But it may well be that the joined words in Voynichese were actually polysyllabic words of the original language.
All the best, --stolfi

