07-01-2026, 11:47 AM
(06-01-2026, 04:20 PM)proto57 wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Again, you seem to make my point here. If this work, you feel (as I feel) does not "fit within existing collections", then how does that observation support genuine? You are describing an effect, a result, of making a poor forgery, not a genuine item. Would you or I do it better? Not sure I could, but I would hope it would have been better than this, so people in 2025 didn't say what you just did.
Rich
I should clarify as a work from that period it's very good - that has content that places it in the 15th century and is C14 dated to the 15th century. By poor quality, I'm referring to the skill of the illustrator as an artwork. The shaky hand line work and bad coloring is what makes this a poor document.
However until we have evidence otherwise, it's reasonable to accept it's what it appears to be - genuine as the default position.
I've read your blog post: The Modern Forgery Hypothesis. Here is a quote.
"As for this “Magellan Map”, Wilfrid had said he found it in the binding of a 1536 book. I contend that map may be a fake, and that Voynich was aware it was a fake, and that this demonstrates that he had some connection to the world of forgery- at least, to the very active industry in manuscript map forgeries which existed at the time."
This speculation about the Map is claimed to demonstrate a connection - another speculation connecting Voynich to a "forgery factory". If you want to show a connection to other known forgeries, you could have a list of attributes that these forgeries had which were used to identify them as forgeries forming a kind of "forgery fingerprint" which then would need to be correlated to some features of the VM. This would add much needed weight to your arguments.
The speculation on top of speculation makes it hard to accept it to be anything other than a fictional story. While we're speculating we should definitely implicate Voynichs wife Ethel who continued to try to sell the VM after his death, and their secretary Anne Nill who succeeded in selling it. Perhaps the encoded text is Polish or Russian since Ethel spoke and translated both of these languages.
Ethels claim that Voynich confessed it's true origin to be the Jesuits at Frascati could be used to speculate that she was complicit in the conspiracy to forge and sell the VM. The claim for the Jesuit origin comes not from Ethel herself but from a letter (presumably written by Ethel) to Anne Nill. Why would Ethel reveal this only in a letter to Anne? Perhaps Anne Nill forged that letter from Ethel. After all, she was the one who was successful in selling the VM. Perhaps there was a love triangle. The possibilities are endless.

