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RE: Elephant in the Room Solution Considerations
MHTamdgidi_(Behrooz) > Yesterday, 04:52 AM
@ R. Sale, Thanks for your note and directing me to that page (I will take a look more carefully if I ever go back to the chart).
I was aware that the topic has been discussed as far as the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. chart is concerned (as I noted in my post). I had not seen considerations of the chart involving geomantic figures. Even your own 4x17 (rather than 4x16, separated by the “ligature,” in my reading) illustrates that you were not considering it from the geomantic vantage point. So, I am suggesting a different reading of the chart. You may disagree with this, but that is how we can recognize different interpretations offered (admittedly speculatively on all sides) even when looking at the same chart, in the past or now.
Another point I was adding was regarding the interpretation of the depictions of the persons on the right and the left in the center. I was stating that their right and left hands are indicating directions, their faces serving to tell the reader that the right and left hands are being used to suggest directions in the chart. Face orientations, in other words, serve the identification of right and left hands raised. I may have missed others pointing that out before, but I thought it had not been explained as such before, so I was sharing it just in case.
Whether you consider the above as parts of the elephant missed before is of course your choice. I thought those were new suggestions. You are welcome to your own opinion. -
RE: Elephant in the Room Solution Considerations
MHTamdgidi_(Behrooz) > Yesterday, 04:56 AM
@ Jorge_Stolfi, thank you also for providing me with that detailed study of the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. chart.
My main interest in that chart at this point is whether its 3rd circle (from center) serves geomantic functions. As I noted to R. Sale above, I am not sure if the chart has been considered from that vantage point. Whether there is any value in it, I don’t know. I will hopefully have time to look at your detailed study. As you also noted before, it may not be a priority at this time for me as well. I just wanted to bring the two points about the chart to others’ attention, in case they’d be interested to follow up with them.
I think what the scribe(s) were intending to do in the chart can be subject to alternative interpretations/speculations. So, of course you are entitled to your opinion. In mine, at this point of thinking about it, I think there are 4x16 series of seemingly repeating “letters” separated by a “ligature” on that 3rd ring from the center. The ‘o’ on 10:00 was meant to be accurately placed, since it seems the scribe was drawing a radius line there to make sure he or she started from there at least. I have no more speculations about that chart at this time. I may go back to it.
In the illustrations that I will post next (separately from this post), I have included two referring to the pages You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and f66r, as discussed before. I rotated the list, and then rotated each letter back so that the order of the items in each column can be read as a row, horizontally, left to right. I hope it can be helpful to you and others wishing to further study any link the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. chart has to those pages.
I still think there is some connection there, because some of those rare symbols are appearing in the chart and the columns; what their significance is, I don’t know at this point, and hopefully others in this forum can help with their expertise, especially if they know more about matters related to geomancy.
In the rotations that I did, I tried to clean up the surrounding text, so please ignore the background inconsistencies of the two strips I will post. -
RE: Elephant in the Room Solution Considerations
MHTamdgidi_(Behrooz) > Yesterday, 05:21 AM
The following images are related to my previous recent post (#42) about the possible interpretations of the three images on f1r, the first page of the Voynich manuscript. I had provided links to the pages, but I thought seeing the images directly can make things easier.
(Yesterday, 04:56 AM)MHTamdgidi_(Behrooz) Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In the illustrations that I [am posting below] I have included two referring to the pages You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and f66r, as discussed before. I rotated the list, and then rotated each letter back so that the order of the items in each column can be read as a row, horizontally, left to right. I hope it can be helpful to you and others wishing to further study any link the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. chart has to those pages.
I still think there is some connection there, because some of those rare symbols are appearing in the chart and the columns; what their significance is, I don’t know at this point, and hopefully others in this forum can help with their expertise, especially if they know more about matters related to geomancy.
In the rotations that I did, I tried to clean up the surrounding text, so please ignore the background inconsistencies of the two strips I will post.
The following are related to the post #35 above and the discussion we were having with Jorge_Stolfi. They can be studied in relation to the image Jorge_Stolfi kindly provided in post #45 (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.)
Jorge, the first one is related to the column on page f49v
The next one is related to the column on page You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.