[split] Jorge's Retracer Thread: darker ink, retracing of text and drawings
(31-12-2025, 10:56 PM)Bluetoes101 wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.makes me wonder if we have a symbol between r and n ... There's a fair few r in the manuscript transliterations that the modifications start in the middle rather than the top (though much more rare)

I believe that the Author conceived the r glyph as consisting of two separate pen strokes, one for the i body (from top to bottom) and another for the plume (from the top of the i, starting towards NE and going counterclockwise, with gradually reducing pressure).   (I believe that s was supposed to be the same, only with an e body instead of i.)

And I believe that the n was conceived by the Author as two separate pen strokes too, drawn the same way; only with the plume starting at the bottom of the i rather than at the top.  That would result in a sharp ~90 degree corner at the bottom.  However, there is no need to lift the pen between the two strokes.  So in practice the n got drawn as a single stroke, resulting in a rounded corner at the bottom.  When drawn with little care, the i stroke further morphed into an e, and thus the n became a b.  

So my criterion for distinguishing the two glyphs is whether they were originally drawn in one stroke (which I read as n) or two strokes (which I read as r).  If the latter, I don't care whether the the plume starts at the top of the i, of somewhat lower than that; I accept that as normal handwriting variation.  And I tend to view b not as a distinct glyph, but only as a variant of n in sloppy handwriting.

All the best, --stolfi
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Naughty, naughty retracer - by Jorge_Stolfi - 29-09-2025, 12:01 AM
RE: T-O map of f86v3 - by Jorge_Stolfi - 10-12-2025, 03:12 PM
RE: [split] Retracer Thread: darker ink, retracing of text and drawings - by Jorge_Stolfi - 31-12-2025, 11:42 PM
Wellcome Library MS.336. - by Jorge_Stolfi - 02-02-2026, 01:04 AM
RE: Wellcome Library MS.336. - by nablator - 02-02-2026, 01:55 AM
RE: Wellcome Library MS.336. - by Jorge_Stolfi - 02-02-2026, 09:25 AM
Pregnant, or hallucinating? - by Jorge_Stolfi - 24-02-2026, 08:12 PM
RE: Bleedtrhrough of f116r on f116v? - by eggyk - 04-08-2026, 01:05 PM
[split] Retracer etc. - by Stefan Wirtz_2 - 18-11-2025, 04:09 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Koen G - 18-11-2025, 04:43 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Aga Tentakulus - 18-11-2025, 05:11 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Jorge_Stolfi - 18-11-2025, 08:19 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Bluetoes101 - 18-11-2025, 05:25 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Stefan Wirtz_2 - 18-11-2025, 05:39 PM
RE: [split] Retracer etc. - by Koen G - 18-11-2025, 05:59 PM
RE: [split] Retracer etc. - by Philipp Harland - 20-11-2025, 10:27 AM
RE: [split] Retracer etc. - by Jorge_Stolfi - 20-11-2025, 12:01 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Bluetoes101 - 18-11-2025, 06:09 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Koen G - 18-11-2025, 06:17 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Jorge_Stolfi - 18-11-2025, 07:11 PM

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