The Cliffs of Moher

[tavie]

Hi Doireann,

I understand you asked people to presuppose for the sake of discussion that your translations were accepted.  But that isn't working, and it was likely doomed from the start.  Consider it from the point of view of the other posters.  

Imagine someone comes to you telling you the manuscript is in Swedish.  They share their translations with you, but you can't see that they are any different from the two hundred wrong solutions already out there, and to cap it off they use their system to translate a sentence of Voynichese and produce output similar to their earlier translations...except the Voynichese turns out to have been fake.  That person then wants you to presuppose the earlier translations have been accepted as accurate in order to participate in a discussion about a Swedish connection to the manuscript...that includes their translations.  

It's not easy for anyone to do, and I don't think it's a helpful presupposition to try to make either.  You can't ask people to discuss conclusions without assessing the premises that lead to these.  Doing so makes the whole discussion pretty meaningless.

So I'd suggest that you keep the thread focused on the question of an Irish connection without using your translations as any type of evidence and without asking people to make any assumptions. 

If instead you decide to keep using your translations as evidence, people are going to question their validity as evidence, and we'll end up in a continuation of your previous thread, where we are all just going round in circles.