22-11-2025, 08:43 AM
(This post was last modified: 22-11-2025, 08:59 AM by Jorge_Stolfi.)
(22-11-2025, 07:15 AM)Doireannjane wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Irish also has a differing grammatical order to Englsih. To read it in English, it has to be reordered at least a little.
Then, whenever you propose a translation, you should first give (1) the glyph-for-glyph transcription of the Voynichese glyphs into your phonetic Irish alphabet, according to your tables, (2) the Irish words that you think you recognize in those phonetic strings, in the current or ancient spelling, but in the same order, (3) the reordered sentence in grammatically correct Irish, if you think that it needs reordering, with punctuation, then (4) the word-for-word translation of that Irish sentence into English, in the same order, and only then (5) the translation into English, with whatever reordering and grammar adjustments are needed.
For instance, here is an example of how that would work for Japanese:
- (0) きのうかったさかなわおいしい
- (1) ki.no.u.ka.[dbl].ta.sa.ka.na.wa.o.i.shi.i
- (2) Kinō katta sakana wa oishī.
- (3) same as (2) - sentence is already grammatically correct Japanese.
- (4) yesterday bought fish [subj] good.
- (5) The fish that you bought yesterday is good.
For instance, in the Japanese example the word "katta" could also be translated into English as "I/he/she/it/we/they bought", or "I/you/he/she/it/we/they cut", and maybe more. I picked "you bought" because it seemed more likely. People who know Japanese would know that my translation was arbitrary at that point, etc.
Doing that for just one short VMS paragraph will go a long way towards getting people to take your proposal seriously. Posting tons of "translations" will not do it.
All the best, --stolfi


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