02-11-2025, 04:49 AM
(02-11-2025, 02:24 AM)asteckley wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(02-11-2025, 01:59 AM)rikforto wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.... I notice that you have been very vocal and combative on this thread about the bounds of discourse and how people should engageSo -- you see how this works Rich?
You dared to make a reference that was relevant to a thread's ongoing discussion and which was no more "off-topic" than hundreds of other references, BUT it alluded to an idea that was deemed to be taboo. So that thread was shut down and you were banished to this thread ... dedicated to your theory... but where people are apparently free to go off-topic in order to criticize YOU and dwell further on your perceived misbehavior and to go on about how the discourse is to be bounded. And if you have the audacity to then respond and defend yourself, well hell -- you are just being "vocal and combative"!
How dare you!
Thank you for noting this, asteckley... although I have to wonder if, as I pointed out in my response to rikforto, if perhaps he made a mistake and mixed me up with the angry moderators complaints against me. I think that possible, because the points made in rik's complaint are the polar opposite to what I was preaching... not combat, and all for a greater and wider "bounds of discourse", and also, NOT telling ANYONE how they should "engage", but defending the ability of people to freely converse. Also, it was Koen who introduced the charge of "derailing", not me. I only defended myself.
But maybe I'm wrong, and he didn't like my responses to the moderators. My powers of reading comprehension might be weakening in all this flurry of activity, accusations, and genuine interest alike. But it is wearying and time consuming to sort all this out... and I'm sure I am not alone in hoping it all stops. Meanwhile, you and the others who are genuinely interested in my arguments, and the arguments of others, are making an effort to talk with each other through the fog, and that's a good thing.
Thanks much for noticing, and caring enough about all this to comment.
All the best, Rich.

