01-11-2025, 04:12 AM
(01-11-2025, 12:38 AM)ReneZ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(31-10-2025, 04:10 PM)proto57 wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.How "derailed" exactly? If your 1420 Genuine European Cipher Herbal, cannot withstand counter points or criticism without being "derailed" by them, then it is clearly a weak theory.
Rich, it looks like you're trying to pull a fast one here. The origin of the Voynich MS is not being derailed. What is being derailed are the posts of other forum members who intend to write about their own subjects and this gets dragged into other directions. While this will frequently happen to some extent, I applaud the efforts to limit this.
This is not at all specific to the 'Voynich faked it' theory. The rules that were put in place were triggered by other theories that kept derailing discussions.
Rene! Welcome to Forgery Prison! I hope you wiped your feet before entering. Ha!
No "fast one" Rene... I wasn't using any trickery, and my point is intact, and I stand by it.
And like it or not, forgery possibles are enmeshed with almost every feature of the Voynich. So trying as you are to distinguish between Koen's use of "derailment" as relating only to individual threads, rather than in the greater sense of derailing the popular narrative of "the origin of the Voynich" (which, by the way, you are wrong... I didn't actually mean), I feel that is a distinction without a difference. Whether individual discussions or the Voynich as a whole, the issue of possible forgery applies to all of it, it is the same problem. So if these ideas derail the small, that means the larger case can't sustain scrutiny either. And it can't. Whether or not the Voynich is real (which, by now, I do doubt), or a forgery, it should be able to withstand scrutiny. And that is my point... it clearly can't, if any discussion can be upset by bringing it up.
And hey I'm behaving myself in here, not spreading insurrection to the outside Ninja world, as per Tavie's orders! But come back to check on me once in awhile if you like. Bring us a couple of coffees next time! And get me a window and a television, if you talk to the warden.