The Voynich Manuscript as an Iberian-African Voyage Record
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(29-10-2025, 03:57 AM)rikforto wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is going to run into the the problem of discrimination; how can any of this evidence show your theory uniquely? To focus on the artwork you link as an example, those are well over a century after we think the manuscript was drafted and from a very different part of Europe from Portugal. Nudity is pervasive in Western artwork over the centuries and does not uniquely mean "Africa", even if she is represented that way in some distant art. There are fairly big differences too---a lot more nymphs than just one, and few other clues they are meant to be African.

To give a sampling of other problems I see: Codes were used outside of Portugal, and did not look like the Voynich inside the Portuguese navy. The plant identifications are famously hard to get a consensus on. The jars have European precedents. The structure of the Voynich does not match the three-part nautical reports you say it does very well at all.

A more careful comparison with period Portuguese evidence might answer some of these concerns, but you're going to have to find documents and do the comparison for this to seem all that convincing.

The similarities here seem very superficial to me, but if you think they are obvious, you shouldn't have any problem coming up with a lot of detailed examples from the right time and place and convincing people and I encourage you to do that

Finally, and somewhat unrelated to your thoughts on the origin, whatever Voynichese is, it is not a homophonic cipher because it has entirely too few characters for that.

Thx a lot for your reply. I think this is maybe the major problem, because there are no documents from this time from Portugal they are all gone, burned in a fire in Lissabon. So we have nearly no documents from that time. 

So thats why you do not find any facsimile. We mostly know things from secondary literatur, but no original documents. Thats maybe why we have not find similarity to other documents and would limit theories to well documented areas of Europe of that time. 
But you can find some examples from Portugal that show naked woman from around 1520 from maps of America, so why should they not have done it for Africa the same way? You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
And there are a lot of examples around 1550 that show naked woman, in maps of Africa. And the first evidence of naked woman as a symbol of Africa show up around 1570.

However, in the reports from around 1450 we have a lot of text about nude woman bathing. 

Anyway, I just wanted to get the idea out and maybe someone will look if it translates to old Portuguese or if you can find nautical words in the star pages. 

I also need to go through the other theories to understand what the general problems are. But its very hard to understand most of the ideas.
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RE: The Voynich Manuscript as an Iberian-African Voyage Record - by Kaybo - 29-10-2025, 01:41 PM

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