09-07-2025, 09:49 AM
(07-07-2025, 08:00 PM)Michael Obraztsov wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.As far as I know, Cheshire showed the best result before me with 44 percent. Am I wrong?
My concern would be with your definition of "best." It's not a competition. Chesire is just another solver like yourself.
He didn't study the existing research. Doesn't know the state of knowledge, which, outside of clickbait for the unwary, is astonishingly good. Chesire was an aspiring academic who encountered the Voynich but did not join the team. I don't understand why a person would not bootstrap their work by reading about what has worked and what hasn't Just the ideas I've encountered in the papers and blog. I date back to the Sapir-Whorf era of linguistics (I'm not a linguist) where it was frequently said that you can't think about something if you don't have the vocabulary.
You can't swing a cat around here with knocking over a few polymathic geniuses. People you'll meet here have been working for decades forming and discarding hypotheses, as one must. That's why you not knowing where we are today is frustrating. It's almost impossible to have a conversation with you. I'm not claiming any credit. My attendance has been spotty. Every single time I've had 'an original thought' recently, I've eventually found some research that covers it. Maybe behind an academic paywall. That usually takes too long and I've already written my own program :-(
You'd be more humble and less frustrated if you had read the giants in our field. I started out humble and I keep getting bushwacked by the manuscript. It's merciless. It's not what it looks like. Just looking at a single line of Voynichese text, carefully, perhaps comparing it to running text in your choice of language, there are tells that tell you that something isn't right. This stuff isn't a secret. If it were, I wouldn't tell you that you're not working on the real problem. You're spending your time on a surface level, going with your gut, that doesn't explain things that are very visible on the page. Mary D'Imperio's book is a free download from the NSA. She and Currier and Tiltman would have rolled their eyes at you in the 1970s. Voyniocheros see this as a team effort because we've seen the magnitude of the problem, and kept educating ourselves and each other. I'd like to see some further progress in my lifetime, but Voynich is a priceless education, and the company is great.


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