Critique wanted
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(19-06-2025, 11:36 AM)RobGea wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Phonemes sound good Smile

However your response to RadioFMs post #2 does not fill me with confidence.

Why would you think that any EVA letter, say EVA-k for example, has a phonetic similarity to any sound whatsoever ?

EVA is a transliteration, you can read about it on  voynich.nu >> Text Analysis - Transliteration of the Text >> You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Thanks that's a totally fairquestion, and I appreciatethe feedback.

You're absolutely right that EVA is a transliteration system, not a phoneticone. We’re not treating EVA letters as inherently phonetic.What we’re doing with POLER-D is using EVA as a standardized reference point to consistently identify glyph patterns. Once we have that, we apply phonetic modeling on top of the EVA groups, not on the EVA letters themselves.

So for example, when we see qokedy, we’re not saying "EVA-k = 'k' sound" directly.Instead, we look at how the groups of glyphs consistently behave across the manuscript.Then test those clusters against knownphonetic shifts in languages spoken after 1300.

Over time that’s helped us identify patterns of drift, not arbitrary guesses, but reoccurring structures that suggest how the manuscript might have been encoded phonetically. And because we’ve kept the same system across multiple folios, the translations have started holding up across different contexts(not just isolated words)

It’s definitely not a perfect system, and I’m not claiming it’s proven or 'solved' by any means. But the structure is getting results that are surprisingly consistentand I’m always open to better ideas, especially if you think there’s a flaw in the approach. Truly any feedback is greatly appreciated. 

Really appreciate you taking the time to ask directly. Most disengage the conversation as soon as they read 'Voynich' or 'independent researcher'.

— K.J.


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Critique wanted - by KJ now - 19-06-2025, 12:06 AM
RE: Critique wanted - by RadioFM - 19-06-2025, 01:33 AM
RE: Critique wanted - by KJ now - 19-06-2025, 02:47 AM
RE: Critique wanted - by oshfdk - 19-06-2025, 08:54 AM
RE: Critique wanted - by Ruby Novacna - 19-06-2025, 06:56 PM
RE: Critique wanted - by oshfdk - 19-06-2025, 07:14 PM
RE: Critique wanted - by KJ now - 20-06-2025, 01:44 AM
RE: Critique wanted - by KJ now - 20-06-2025, 03:19 AM
RE: Critique wanted - by RobGea - 19-06-2025, 11:36 AM
RE: Critique wanted - by KJ now - 20-06-2025, 01:59 AM
RE: Critique wanted - by Rafal - 19-06-2025, 12:03 PM
RE: Critique wanted - by KJ now - 20-06-2025, 02:13 AM
RE: Critique wanted - by Mauro - 19-06-2025, 12:52 PM
RE: Critique wanted - by kckluge - 19-06-2025, 02:13 PM
RE: Critique wanted - by Mauro - 19-06-2025, 03:31 PM
RE: Critique wanted - by kckluge - 19-06-2025, 03:54 PM
RE: Critique wanted - by Rafal - 19-06-2025, 03:55 PM
RE: Critique wanted - by RobGea - 19-06-2025, 04:03 PM
RE: Critique wanted - by kckluge - 19-06-2025, 05:11 PM
RE: Critique wanted - by nablator - 19-06-2025, 04:03 PM
RE: Critique wanted - by KJ now - 20-06-2025, 04:06 AM
RE: Critique wanted - by Koen G - 20-06-2025, 10:15 AM

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