[split] Jorge's Retracer Thread: darker ink, retracing of text and drawings
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(06-06-2025, 08:44 AM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..]
I would say that the Retracer was very careful when retracing the labels, although he/she apparently did not know the alphabet. He was less careful when retouching the figures, and had fun adding details like the "showercaps", crowns, and right breasts.  Perhaps because he guessed that (as in European astrological diagrams of the time) the drawings were only ornamentation, and the only important parts were the labels?

All the best, --jorge

These following are all vords of "sagittarius" You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. inner ring, I tried not to exceed the zoom here to keep things recognizable:

[Image: retracer.png?etag=W%2F%224ec0d-6842e09c%...quality=85]

To me, there is nothing of any older/faded writing underneath these thin retracing lines.
Yes, there are several other positions were the originals can be seen under black ink letters, but there are also further positions were nothing is visible that could have been there "before" the guy with the better ink inserted some vords.

Don't get me wrong: I am personally rather convinced that the most "improvements", tunings, the months' names, funny animals, latin-alphabeted scribbles and all pagenumbers were added much later without any understanding of the script itself by some foreigners.
But for a solid assessment it is not possible to leave out those details which do not quite fit to one theory or the other.
So if there was no retracing or re-lining of previous vords, the dark-ink vocabulary might have been inserted by another during VMS production already, but as well inserted (much) later into blank places which were not used in the original writing.

Best regards,

S. Wirtz
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RE: Wellcome Library MS.336. - by nablator - 02-02-2026, 01:55 AM
RE: Wellcome Library MS.336. - by Jorge_Stolfi - 02-02-2026, 09:25 AM
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RE: Bleedtrhrough of f116r on f116v? - by eggyk - 04-08-2026, 01:05 PM
RE: Pisces (Folio 70v) and the New Year on the 1st of March in the Republic of Venice - by Stefan Wirtz_2 - 06-06-2025, 01:55 PM
[split] Retracer etc. - by Stefan Wirtz_2 - 18-11-2025, 04:09 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Koen G - 18-11-2025, 04:43 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Aga Tentakulus - 18-11-2025, 05:11 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Jorge_Stolfi - 18-11-2025, 08:19 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Bluetoes101 - 18-11-2025, 05:25 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Stefan Wirtz_2 - 18-11-2025, 05:39 PM
RE: [split] Retracer etc. - by Koen G - 18-11-2025, 05:59 PM
RE: [split] Retracer etc. - by Philipp Harland - 20-11-2025, 10:27 AM
RE: [split] Retracer etc. - by Jorge_Stolfi - 20-11-2025, 12:01 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Bluetoes101 - 18-11-2025, 06:09 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Koen G - 18-11-2025, 06:17 PM
RE: "Dragon" 25v - by Jorge_Stolfi - 18-11-2025, 07:11 PM

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