Strong evidence of a structured four-phase system in the Voynich Manuscript
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(24-04-2025, 10:51 AM)Urtx13 wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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(24-04-2025, 09:43 AM)Urtx13 wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.What the project does (in plain terms)

Sorry, but probably this is not plain enough for me, I'm still stumped  Smile . Could you try explaining it is simpler terms, or maybe better let's try some Q&A?

1) You mention cycles, but I don't understand how these cycles relate to the text. Is it topics cycling through folios? Do we have to assume the present ordering of folios for these cycles to make sense? Are there cycles within folios?

2) Basically, as far as I can see, the model splits the text into 4 topics (the number of topics is imposed upon the model) and then it is tested that the model can correctly identify the topic based on the tokens. I'm not sure what this proves exactly, I would assume if you take any text separated into chunks and ask a model to produce a split of chunks into 4 topics, the model will successfully identify some split based on token frequencies and then will successfully sort new chunks according to this split. I think I'm missing something here.

Not to mention that patterns like this don’t appear naturally or by chance.

If such a structured cycle exists, it means someone intentionally designed it — which implies purpose, not randomness.

Also, I think you’re right to question whether setting four topics is arbitrary. It’s not. We tried multiple options and observed that four is the only number that yields a strong, consistent internal pattern, not just via topic modeling, but also in entropy trends, classifier performance (96.5%), autocorrelation, FFT peaks, and alignment with agronomic cycles.

So it’s not that we imposed four — instead, four emerged as the minimal number that produces a statistically significant and interpretable structure. Other values don’t reproduce the same coherence.

We can do a Q&A if you'd like.

P.S. I understand this is a forum and I’m new here, so maybe this is a normal tone. Still, I’d like to clarify that my intention is strictly academic and constructive. From now on, I’ll choose not to engage with any tone that feels dismissive or confrontational. There is no chunk or imposition. Thanks for understanding!
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RE: Strong evidence of a structured four-phase system in the Voynich Manuscript - by Urtx13 - 24-04-2025, 11:43 AM

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