Getting close to a source for f85r2

[Koen G]

It would be interesting to find out where the "old woman with cane & chain" thing comes from. It may not be original to Laufenberg. Here are some "beguines" from a later MS (I haven't done an intensive search yet, these were the first ones I came across):

   

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Lot books - BSB Cgm 312 , [Sl] Swabia, 1450 - 1473 [BSB-Hss Cgm 312]

This manuscript has got more groups of 4 than I've ever seen. Four hermits? Four Lay Princes? Four Forests?