F66r question
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(09-04-2021, 02:52 AM)geoffreycaveney wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Ok, while we are discussing Istvaeonic Germanic readings and interpretations of the Voynich ms text, I have one more to offer, the two vords next to the famous illustration of the group of seven stars on folio page You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. 3:

EVA: [doaro/y] [oalcheol]

with "Judas" and other logical values of units: "charh/H hasiez"

I dare say this rather looks like "schaar (=schare) haasjes", the latter word of which is "hasies" in Afrikaans, extremely close to the reading above.

If I understand correctly, this means "a crowd of little hares". Now I know that a hen and her chicks would be a more traditional symbolic meaning of the Pleiades in Germanic folklore, but still, the concept of a large group of baby animals seems pretty close to the mark. There is also the constellation Lepus (the Hare) to consider: It is often presented as being chased by Orion and his hunting dogs Canis Major and Canis Minor. Canis Major of course contains Sirius, the "dog star", the brightest star in the sky, and it is quite possible to interpret the large bright star near the cluster on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. 3 as Sirius.

Quire 8 is still a mystery to me but I have some new thoughts about Quire 9. I think it goes both ways. I think it is not just about selecting the new baby soul to be born on Earth, I think it is also about selecting the man who will be the father of the new baby soul.

Astrology and Zodiac are generally about the Sun, the Moon, and the five planets. I don't see anything in the Voynich Manuscript about any planet. I only see Sun and Moon.

The first page of Quire 9 is f67r1 with the iconic Sun with 12 divisions. These 12 divisions are probably the 12 traditional Zodiac.

The second page of Quire 9 is f67r2 with 12 divisions with what look like 12 moons. As far as I know, this is the only page that has text written in red ink. (I'm sure someone will let me know if I missed another page with red ink text.) It must cover a topic that was important to them for them to use red ink for some of the text on this page. The center image is not the Sun or the Moon but a star-like image. To me this star-like image looks more like a starfish than any star in the night sky. Here again I believe this "shining" center image is a soul. Excluding Quire 8 and all the many plant/herbal pages, I think the theme of the Voynich Manuscript is Ensoulment.

The third page is f67v2 with the swirly-star-in-a-box image in the middle. There are faint dotted lines between the four corners of the box and the two Sun and two Moon images. I think the dotted lines are to indicate that influence is happening. I think the direction of influence is happening from Sun and Moon to the soul. I don't expect anyone to try to make a case that the soul is influencing the Sun and Moon. The Sun and Moon influencing a person's life is one of the main themes of Astrology. To flip the direction of influence would only make sense if you say the swirly-star is God influencing the Sun and Moon. I have no idea about the lines coming from the sides of the box and ending with puffy parachutes. All of this is inside a big circle that I think indicates some kind of cycle. I'm still not sure what that cycle is. The four corners of the page are still a mystery to me. Possibly they are the four phases of the moon and they just have a very odd way of showing the four phases. They used a lot of green, red, and blue ink in the lower-left corner so, whatever it is, it must have been important to them.

I think the Sun in the center of f67v1 represents Heaven and I think this page is showing some type of selection process for which new baby soul will be sent to Earth.

I think all of f68r1_f68r2_f68r3 is about selecting the man who will be the father of this new baby soul on Earth. I think the idea that the star-images were stars in the night sky really had people barking up the wrong tree for decades. I think of f68r3 as the star-pizza page. Forget The Pleiades. Think about selecting a man to be the father of a new baby. These are the words we should be looking for.

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Maybe "dal" means man or father in some lost language.


dchol
26 matches, in f5v, f51v, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and 23 other folios.

dal
253 matches, in f67r2, f45r, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and 111 other folios.


doaro
One match, in folio f68r3.


oalcheol
One match, in folio f68r3.
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F66r question - by davidjackson - 04-08-2020, 10:06 PM
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