(09-09-2016, 02:10 AM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.... I'm thinking maybe Lombardy because of the way German and Italian are blended in some of the charms—this combination is very characteristic of Lombardy, which was sandwiched in between Bavaria and the northern Italian states but which was mostly (but not entirely) German- and Lombardic-speaking in the 15th century.
Old German and old Lombardic were more similar than than they are now. German has become more standardized and distinct, and modern Lombardic, because of its close association with Italy over the centuries, has been infused with many Italian words.
Hi JKP,
these observations are very interesting to me! I would appreciate if you could clarify a few points:
A. What do you mean by "Lombardy" here? Could you please name the main cities making part of it in the XV Century?
B. Wasn't Switzerland the region sandwiched in between Bavaria and Northern Italy?
C. Could you point me to XV Century manuscripts exhibiting the blend of German and Italian you are speaking of?
I always thought that the Alps made a physical barrier between Italian-speaking areas and German-speaking areas.
In his recent Voynich article, Alain Touwaide mentions the German color annotation "rot" on f4r. He writes that it "does not seem to be compatible with a Northern Italian origin of the [Voynich] manuscript". So apparently his opinion is that German is extremely rare in XV Century manuscripts written in Northern Italy (i.e. South of the Alps).
(09-09-2016, 02:10 AM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It's also possible that it's southern German and he just happened to know Italian (or was consulting Italian sources and kept some of the words).
If the subject is Buitzruss' notebook Clm 671, I don't think there is reason to doubt the essay mentioned You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (“Fifteenth-Century Medicine and Magic at the University of Heidelberg”, Elisabeth I. Wade-Sirabian): the manuscript was written in Heidelberg.
I think I have seen a single Italian sentence in 100 pages. About 0.1%.

