12-12-2022, 06:58 PM
(12-12-2022, 05:30 PM)pfeaster wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The points others have raised about entropy and so forth are relevant, but let's try a different approach.Unfortunately or fortunately for us, we cannot ignore the fact that the entropy of our text is lower than that of a "normal" text. I am not a mathematician, I just understand that the degree of disorder of our text is lower, and that it would be unwise for us to compare without understanding what we are comparing with.
According to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., the twelve most common words in a large sample corpus of Greek texts -- together with their token counts in it -- are:
καὶ ["and"] 4129066
δὲ ["but"] 1501550
τὸ ["the"] 1414996
τοῦ ["the"] 1140938
τῶν ["the"] 1051317
τὴν ["the"] 993011
τῆς ["the"] 849596
ὁ ["the"] 831492
ἐν ["in"] 795289
γὰρ ["because"] 687117
τὸν ["the"] 679309
τὰ ["the"] 627063
For example, the twelve most frequent Greek words, which you quote, in my opinion, provide very little information and in a very ordered text, such as a collection of recipes, for example, would perhaps be in the minority.
Besides, δ' can probably be transcribed as q' and in that case the word frequencies would have to be redone
(12-12-2022, 05:30 PM)pfeaster wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Meanwhile, we could also compare the results we get by applying particular forms of analysis to known negative cases -- that is, cases in which we know that a script does not match a given language. So, for instance, we might test the hypothesis that modern Slovenian is a system for writing modern Turkish. What happens if we look at the vocabulary of Slovenian and see if we can find matching Turkish words?I don't quite understand your example, are you trying to show that languages belonging to different families can have homophones?
Slovenian [biti] = Turkish [biti], "his louse"
...
Slovenian [ne] = Turkish [ne], "what"
... and so forth
(12-12-2022, 05:30 PM)pfeaster wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This seems to be working pretty well. So should we conclude that we're probably on the right track?If not, why not?
If not, why not?
That was my question, I hope you will help me to answer it?


