[split] Roots and Eagle heraldry
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So, here's a tricky question. If the VMs roots *are* interpreted as an eagle, how are we to know if it is a regular eagle or a headless eagle??

Here is the connection:
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And the guy was a heraldry specialist. 

So, if the VMs wings to eagle interpretation is 'cryptoheraldry", then going to a headless eagle is crypto-cryptoheraldry.

Could someone c. 1600 create the VMs?

Or could it be that a Flug is just a Flug? Still too few examples with early dating.

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PS: And even more interesting:::

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"A pair of wings may be conjoined: this was considered artist’s license, as the same arms could be drawn either with the wings conjoined or separate. A pair of wings displayed and conjoined may also be blazoned a “vol”, the French term for the motif; this is seen in the arms of von Hohenfels, 1606 [Siebmacher 140]." 

Herr Siebmacher did the von Hohenfels coat-of-arms. Wonder what that looks like???

PPS: And here it is"
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[split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by Koen G - 19-07-2022, 11:28 AM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by bi3mw - 19-07-2022, 02:35 PM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by R. Sale - 19-07-2022, 07:18 PM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by bi3mw - 19-07-2022, 08:39 PM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by Koen G - 19-07-2022, 08:48 PM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by DONJCH - 20-07-2022, 03:51 PM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by R. Sale - 19-07-2022, 09:19 PM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by bi3mw - 19-07-2022, 10:48 PM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by Koen G - 19-07-2022, 11:04 PM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by R. Sale - 20-07-2022, 07:25 PM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by DONJCH - 22-07-2022, 10:25 AM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by bi3mw - 30-07-2022, 12:59 PM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by R. Sale - 31-07-2022, 07:32 PM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by ReneZ - 03-08-2022, 10:53 AM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by Koen G - 03-08-2022, 11:22 AM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by MarcoP - 04-08-2022, 09:52 AM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by Koen G - 04-08-2022, 10:06 AM
RE: [split] Roots and Eagle heraldry - by R. Sale - 29-05-2024, 08:21 PM
RE: [split] Barbara of Cilli (Celje) - by ReneZ - 19-07-2022, 01:01 PM
RE: [split] Barbara of Cilli (Celje) - by Koen G - 19-07-2022, 01:15 PM
RE: [split] Barbara of Cilli (Celje) - by ReneZ - 19-07-2022, 01:33 PM
RE: [split] Barbara of Cilli (Celje) - by Koen G - 19-07-2022, 01:49 PM

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