Examples of connected dots?
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(24-02-2022, 10:20 AM)Koen G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It looks like Searcher's Coptic example uses the symbols as a form of sacred writing, reserved for invocations of the names of God, angels etc. "Around him are written various sacred names, including those of God the Father and the seven archangels, written in the style of the magical symbols we call kharaktēres, with decorative circles at their points."

That's interesting, thank you Koen! E.g. the name ΜΙΧΑΗΛ Mikail is easy enough to read.
   

Quote:This may explain the ultimate origin of these symbols, though it takes us further away from the VM (early 15th century). From what I have read so far, it looks like the use in Hebrew texts was the same.

By the 15th Century the origin of this class of symbols was probably lost, but I guess the whole point of sigils still was some kind of written language to communicate with "magical" beings like angels and demons. 
The single dots-and-lines diagram in the VMS could be a V, we know this symbol was later used for Aqua Vitae and this was possibly due to the initial V. Of course, it would be nice to find other uses of that specific symbol that pre-date the VMS (we know it was already used for constellations at that time).



EDIT: an interesting paper by Richard Gordon about Greek-Egyptian "charakteres" also mentioning their relationship with ciphers and invented alphabets:

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Examples of connected dots? - by Koen G - 22-02-2022, 03:42 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by MarcoP - 22-02-2022, 05:30 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Koen G - 22-02-2022, 06:31 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by R. Sale - 22-02-2022, 08:48 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Koen G - 22-02-2022, 09:25 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by R. Sale - 22-02-2022, 10:36 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Scarecrow - 23-02-2022, 08:43 AM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Koen G - 23-02-2022, 09:45 AM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by MarcoP - 23-02-2022, 01:07 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Koen G - 23-02-2022, 05:39 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by MarcoP - 23-02-2022, 06:06 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Searcher - 23-02-2022, 08:01 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Koen G - 23-02-2022, 09:23 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by davidjackson - 23-02-2022, 09:39 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Searcher - 23-02-2022, 09:54 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Koen G - 24-02-2022, 10:20 AM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by MarcoP - 24-02-2022, 08:29 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Mark Knowles - 24-02-2022, 09:00 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Juan_Sali - 28-02-2022, 03:18 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by ReneZ - 28-02-2022, 07:31 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Koen G - 28-02-2022, 08:33 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by R. Sale - 28-02-2022, 09:44 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Juan_Sali - 01-03-2022, 08:28 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by R. Sale - 02-03-2022, 08:46 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by bi3mw - 07-03-2022, 03:08 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by RobGea - 07-03-2022, 04:48 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by RobGea - 07-03-2022, 05:40 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by bi3mw - 07-03-2022, 09:42 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by bi3mw - 08-03-2022, 08:26 AM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by DG97EEB - 19-01-2026, 05:57 PM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by JoJo_Jost - 05-07-2026, 08:15 AM
RE: Examples of connected dots? - by Barbrey - 05-07-2026, 07:45 AM

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