28-06-2021, 04:33 PM
To be sequential and to gather all the information in one place for convenience, I need to copy my post from another thread. Unfortunately, I already can't edit those ones, but the moderators can shorten the wholly copied previous post if so will be better.
I'll begin with the image of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. which may mean "sky (heaven) - earth - water (ocean)" or "heavens - earth - underworld" in the mythological conception.
The first division is formed according to the Genesis 1:26:
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
I'll work here with the corner rosettes, as on my observations, exactly they are connected to the mythological side of the information.
Concerning You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. I consider such possibilities:
1. The physical world. I only have doubts as for the sky. It seems in this conception must by the sky / heaven meaning atmosphere, air, but looking on the two copies of the Vox Clamantis (circa 1400), I think it is a possible variation.
With air (Glasgow Univ. Lib., MS Hunter 59 (T.2.17) folio 6v):
![[Image: John_Gower_world_Vox_Clamantis.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/John_Gower_world_Vox_Clamantis.jpg)
With starry night sky (source is Hunting Library HM150 folio: f. 13v (aka Ecton-Sotheby manuscript, Macaulay E-text):
![[Image: 394px-John_Gower_archer_Vox_Clamantis.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/John_Gower_archer_Vox_Clamantis.jpg/394px-John_Gower_archer_Vox_Clamantis.jpg)
Koen's edited image of the right top rosette:
![[Image: attachment.php?aid=5608]](https://www.voynich.ninja/attachment.php?aid=5608)
2. The part of the Biblical creation myth.
Genesis 1:6-7
6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so.
Also:
Job 9:8
He alone stretches out the heavens _ and treads on the waves of the sea.
Or Job 26:7-12
7 He spreads out the northern [skies] over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing.8 He wraps up the waters in his clouds, yet the clouds do not burst under their weight.9 He covers the face of the full moon, spreading his clouds over it.10 He marks out the horizon on the face of the waters for a boundary between light and darkness.11 The pillars of the heavens quake, aghast at his rebuke.12 By his power he churned up the sea; by his wisdom he cut Rahab to pieces.
The spiral shaped text reminds me of the circular motion of the stars around the north pole (the God's Kingdom), therefore I think of this rosette not only as about the Creature, but also as the North.
3. The Flood myth with the castle-like ark.
I'm really not ready to prefer any of these suppositions. All of them seems to be possible, but, of course, it needs a separate thread for interpretations of every rosette.
The You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. represents something that reminds a curtain (a tent) as we all noted. I think it, along with the sun depicted in the right bottom corner, can reflect such quotes:
Isaiah 40:22
It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
Psalms 19:1-6
1 The heavens declare the glory of God,and the sky above proclaims his handiwork.
2 Day to day pours out speech,
and night to night reveals knowledge.
3 There is no speech, nor are there words,
whose voice is not heard.
4 Their voice goes out through all the earth,
and their words to the end of the world.
In them he has set a tent for the sun,
5 which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber,
and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy.
6 Its rising is from the end of the heavens,
and its circuit to the end of them,
and there is nothing hidden from its heat.
The tabernacle (sanctuary) is a parallel or a copy of the heavenly curtain (or the tabernacle):
Hebrews 8:5 ESV
They serve a copy and shadow of the heavenly things. For when Moses was about to erect the tent, he was instructed by God, saying, “See that you make everything according to the pattern that was shown you on the mountain.”
Hebrews 9:11
But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation;
So, I wonder if it can depict the eartly tabernacle, or heavenly one, or either. I'll consider later whether this rosette stands for East or West, and which problems are with those interpretations.
Dropping the left bottom rosette for now, I want to make some notes about the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
Look at the Miniature of King Cnut and Queen Emma in the New Minster Liber Vitae: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
![[Image: 6a00d8341c464853ef022ad3cb7d42200b-500wi]](https://blogs.bl.uk/.a/6a00d8341c464853ef022ad3cb7d42200b-500wi)
I'd pay attention that the part of the "curtain" of the right bottom rosette contains a pattern dividing the square into four parts. Possibly it is just a decoration, but what if there is a connection between these two diagonal rosettes, besides of that that these corner contain the pictures of the Sun. I think this diagonal represents the way of the Sun and, at the same time, can be the way of Christ (his transfiguration).
To be continued...
I'll begin with the image of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. which may mean "sky (heaven) - earth - water (ocean)" or "heavens - earth - underworld" in the mythological conception.
The first division is formed according to the Genesis 1:26:
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
I'll work here with the corner rosettes, as on my observations, exactly they are connected to the mythological side of the information.
Concerning You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. I consider such possibilities:
1. The physical world. I only have doubts as for the sky. It seems in this conception must by the sky / heaven meaning atmosphere, air, but looking on the two copies of the Vox Clamantis (circa 1400), I think it is a possible variation.
With air (Glasgow Univ. Lib., MS Hunter 59 (T.2.17) folio 6v):
![[Image: John_Gower_world_Vox_Clamantis.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/John_Gower_world_Vox_Clamantis.jpg)
With starry night sky (source is Hunting Library HM150 folio: f. 13v (aka Ecton-Sotheby manuscript, Macaulay E-text):
Koen's edited image of the right top rosette:
2. The part of the Biblical creation myth.
Genesis 1:6-7
6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so.
Also:
Job 9:8
He alone stretches out the heavens _ and treads on the waves of the sea.
Or Job 26:7-12
7 He spreads out the northern [skies] over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing.8 He wraps up the waters in his clouds, yet the clouds do not burst under their weight.9 He covers the face of the full moon, spreading his clouds over it.10 He marks out the horizon on the face of the waters for a boundary between light and darkness.11 The pillars of the heavens quake, aghast at his rebuke.12 By his power he churned up the sea; by his wisdom he cut Rahab to pieces.
The spiral shaped text reminds me of the circular motion of the stars around the north pole (the God's Kingdom), therefore I think of this rosette not only as about the Creature, but also as the North.
3. The Flood myth with the castle-like ark.
I'm really not ready to prefer any of these suppositions. All of them seems to be possible, but, of course, it needs a separate thread for interpretations of every rosette.
The You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. represents something that reminds a curtain (a tent) as we all noted. I think it, along with the sun depicted in the right bottom corner, can reflect such quotes:
Isaiah 40:22
It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
Psalms 19:1-6
1 The heavens declare the glory of God,and the sky above proclaims his handiwork.
2 Day to day pours out speech,
and night to night reveals knowledge.
3 There is no speech, nor are there words,
whose voice is not heard.
4 Their voice goes out through all the earth,
and their words to the end of the world.
In them he has set a tent for the sun,
5 which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber,
and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy.
6 Its rising is from the end of the heavens,
and its circuit to the end of them,
and there is nothing hidden from its heat.
The tabernacle (sanctuary) is a parallel or a copy of the heavenly curtain (or the tabernacle):
Hebrews 8:5 ESV
They serve a copy and shadow of the heavenly things. For when Moses was about to erect the tent, he was instructed by God, saying, “See that you make everything according to the pattern that was shown you on the mountain.”
Hebrews 9:11
But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation;
So, I wonder if it can depict the eartly tabernacle, or heavenly one, or either. I'll consider later whether this rosette stands for East or West, and which problems are with those interpretations.
Dropping the left bottom rosette for now, I want to make some notes about the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
Look at the Miniature of King Cnut and Queen Emma in the New Minster Liber Vitae: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
I'd pay attention that the part of the "curtain" of the right bottom rosette contains a pattern dividing the square into four parts. Possibly it is just a decoration, but what if there is a connection between these two diagonal rosettes, besides of that that these corner contain the pictures of the Sun. I think this diagonal represents the way of the Sun and, at the same time, can be the way of Christ (his transfiguration).
To be continued...

