(04-05-2021, 08:27 AM)Helmut Winkler wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(03-05-2021, 07:18 PM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(03-05-2021, 04:22 PM)Anton wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
One says, this is "probiren". Where's the argument? Are there any examples where probiren is abbreviated as pbren? Maybe there are, and that would be just excellent, but they should be referenced.
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I don't have an answer, but I can offer an opinion based on years of reading medieval scripts and manuscripts. The "pro" part can be justified IF the tail of the p had a curved slash across the descender that was obliterated. It was a very common symbol/abbreviation for "pro".
However, the missing "i" is usually indicated with a macron/apostrophe and there isn't one. So, if it is prob(i)ren, the slash on "p" is no longer visible and the macron standing in for "i" has been omitted (which is rare but not impossible, they usually were pretty consistent with macrons).
JKP,
I think you dont see the real issue as well, the 116v sribe leaves off things, letters, macrons, loops, no matter what reason he had
I said it was rare but not impossible. I am quite open to the possibility that he left them out.
On 17v, which I am pretty sure is the same scribe as 116v, he included a macron.

