08-04-2021, 06:37 PM
I have a new observation about the Voynichese text above the German phrase "der mus del" / "der Mussteil" on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. , so I will revive this interesting thread to do so.
Those who have read Koen's recent blog post You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. about You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and my comments there about the name Judas and a certain vord combination that occurs twice in the first three lines there and nowhere else in the entire ms (see my other post You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. for all the relevant links) will have seen that I raise the idea there of a possible Schlesisch-Wilmesau Germanic dialect, which would have heavy Polish / Silesian influence. If you follow my system for the interpretation of those lines on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and apply it to the Voynichese text above the German phrase on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. , you get the following reading of it:
EVA: [otcheo daiin chty ykchscheg]
numerical: [11v][2][9][v] [3][7b] [2][11][#] [#][10][2][14][2][9][18]
with "Judas" and other logical values of units: "bieh cu ipH Htilie[18]"
My new observation is that by this reading, the first three of these four vords bear a striking resemblance to the phrase "bier zuip!", which I dare say may be recognizable to a number of readers of this forum.
It is notable in this regard that the Wilmesaurisch or Wymysorys Germanic dialect in southern Poland is well-known for its unusual significant Istvaeonic (Dutch, Flemish, et al.) and Low German features in a High German region. Local legend holds that this population is descended from Flemish settlers in the 12th century. While the influence of regional High German and Polish have certainly had a significant effect on this dialect over many centuries, it is striking that an unusual number of significant non-High Germanic features can still be found in this dialect to this day.
Geoffrey
Those who have read Koen's recent blog post You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. about You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and my comments there about the name Judas and a certain vord combination that occurs twice in the first three lines there and nowhere else in the entire ms (see my other post You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. for all the relevant links) will have seen that I raise the idea there of a possible Schlesisch-Wilmesau Germanic dialect, which would have heavy Polish / Silesian influence. If you follow my system for the interpretation of those lines on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and apply it to the Voynichese text above the German phrase on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. , you get the following reading of it:
EVA: [otcheo daiin chty ykchscheg]
numerical: [11v][2][9][v] [3][7b] [2][11][#] [#][10][2][14][2][9][18]
with "Judas" and other logical values of units: "bieh cu ipH Htilie[18]"
My new observation is that by this reading, the first three of these four vords bear a striking resemblance to the phrase "bier zuip!", which I dare say may be recognizable to a number of readers of this forum.
It is notable in this regard that the Wilmesaurisch or Wymysorys Germanic dialect in southern Poland is well-known for its unusual significant Istvaeonic (Dutch, Flemish, et al.) and Low German features in a High German region. Local legend holds that this population is descended from Flemish settlers in the 12th century. While the influence of regional High German and Polish have certainly had a significant effect on this dialect over many centuries, it is striking that an unusual number of significant non-High Germanic features can still be found in this dialect to this day.
Geoffrey